Bf-109E-4 and E-4/B With Update???

[ElAurens]

Enough with the cannon whines.

Are you lot such bad shots or so impatient that you will throw hissy fits till you get your 109 K4s?

And I have never been on a server that offered a Mk II. Spit.

Don't be in such a rush to get to 1944. It's boring and has been done to death.

[Ze-Jamz]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

Enough with the cannon whines.

Are you lot such bad shots or so impatient that you will throw hissy fits till you get your 109 K4s?

And I have never been on a server that offered a Mk II. Spit.

Don't be in such a rush to get to 1944. It's boring and has been done to death.

Really? open your eyes then cuz they are available..and whos whining?

[JG53Frankyboy]

an E-1 loaded with B-Geschoss (small HE) and S.Kern-Hart (AP) is deadly enough
i dont use tracers in it.

btw, according to the first 109 modmaker ( http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=23921 ) , there are two 601 engines in game programmed.
the DB601A-1 and DB601Aa (slightly more powerful)
IIRC the E-1 and E-3 have the A-1 modeled default he said.
So, we will see if the E-4 will get the Aa , if with automatic propeller (so the already exsiting "enable/disable propeller automatic" command would get sense ) or still only manual.

[Ze-Jamz]

Originally Posted by JG53Frankyboy

an E-1 loaded with B-Geschoss and S.Kern-Hart (AP) is deadly enough
i dont use tracers in it.

btw, according to the first 109 modmaker, there are two 601 engines in game programmed.
the DB601A-1 and DB601Aa (slightly more powerful)
IIRC the E-1 and E-3 have the A-1 modeled default he said.
So, we will see if the E-4 will get the Aa , if with automatic propeller (so the already exsiting "enable/disable propeller automatic" command would get sense ) or still only manual.

Yea Rg the Aa was for the E4 on higher Alt duties afaik... will be interesting

[Blackdog_kt]

I think it does have automatic prop pitch like the real one had.

If you look at the video Luthier posted in the latest development update you can see the pitch "clock" instrument moving in unison with the throttle changes.

[tk471138]

Originally Posted by cheesehawk

Hopefully, the E-4 will be closer to the real performance and will allow mapmakers to open up the availability of the Spit II as they should be pretty even matches.

OP & Z-Jamz, the E-4 can fire mineshells, but the cannons themselves are huge improvements in fire rate and projectile velocity. No more lobbing pineapples at the target!

The cannons themselves do not have HUGE improvements...the only difference is the velocity for the Mine shell, due to the rounds lower weight this also caused the existing mgFF to need to be modified to cope with the higher velocity, this i believe was the main difference (correct me if im wrong)...their might have been a slight increase in rate of fire...what this does is it bring the Luftwaffe cannons to their pretty much standard fittings with the availability of Mine shells, which we should have from this point forward which should be exciting...
or may
The MG151/20 is the cannon that you are thinking of with the huge improvements...we will not get that to the f4 or maybe a 110 variant...

[JG53Frankyboy]

that would be the DB601N , not much used during BoB.
main users were BF110s in ZG units.
So far the community observations of DB601 users in the past are:
DB601N Units August 1940:
Bf109E-4/N
II./JG 26

Bf110C-4/N
II./ZG 26
III./ZG 26
II./ZG 76

[Ze-Jamz]

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

I think it does have automatic prop pitch like the real one had.

If you look at the video Luthier posted in the latest development update you can see the pitch "clock" instrument moving in unison with the throttle changes.

Auto PP...lovely!

[JG53Frankyboy]

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

I think it does have automatic prop pitch like the real one had.

If you look at the video Luthier posted in the latest development update you can see the pitch "clock" instrument moving in unison with the throttle changes.

or they flew the video with CEM off..............we will see soon.

[Danelov]

The main visual difference was the canopy and the seat/head armour plate. Also refitted later to some old E-1s and E-3s.