109E3 has no slats, that is right?

Originally Posted by Sutts

I thought they were simply spring loaded and extended automatically when the air pressure reduced at lower speeds. What controls are we talking about here?

They aren't spring loaded to any position (no springs) but they do operate automatically and independently. On the ground (three point attitude) you can push them in and they will stay up or you can pull them down and they'll stay down, try it the next time you're in a museum displaying a 109 (and ready to leave). I've always thought it might have been a good idea to reduce the deployment angle of the slats and then run a small cable between them to make them deploy/retract together, but then they wouldn't have been operating as efficiently ...

[Kurfürst]

Originally Posted by Sutts

I thought they were simply spring loaded and extended automatically when the air pressure reduced at lower speeds. What controls are we talking about here?

No springs at all. Its just there on roller slide or, in case of before the late 109F, a swing arm. The slats are simply sucked out into their open position by the airstream pressure due to their aerodynamic form.

You can actually push them in or pull them out with a finger on the ground.

[Flying Pencil]

Originally Posted by robtek

One can actually see them.
What is missing is the loud bang when they deploy, as i've read often.

That depends how hard the pilot yanks on the stick.

(played with slats on CAF 109)

[Kwiatek]

Originally Posted by schnorchel

it does not deploy even the speed drops to 150km/h, unless you pull the stick harder in this speed. that is totally different than in il2.

Originally Posted by SG1_Gunkan

I "feel" that they are not modeled. The BF109 have the same stall like no slats planes like FW190 or P51. The keys, to control them don't work either.

So it looks that even 109 slats in COD are screw.

1C really have much work to do in near all areas of these game

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by SG1_Gunkan

I "feel" that they are not modeled. The BF109 have the same stall like no slats planes like FW190 or P51. The keys, to control them don't work either.

The slats keys are for the Tiger Moth which had manually adjustable ones


From what i've seen when flying the 109 the slats deploy all right, just not as much forward as in IL2.
I don't know if this has any effect on the actual FM or if it's just a graphical glitch and we get the full benefit of having them.

In any case, i wouldn't draw any conclusions yet just because they seem a bit "stiff".

[Sutts]

Originally Posted by zipper

They aren't spring loaded to any position (no springs) but they do operate automatically and independently. On the ground (three point attitude) you can push them in and they will stay up or you can pull them down and they'll stay down, try it the next time you're in a museum displaying a 109 (and ready to leave). I've always thought it might have been a good idea to reduce the deployment angle of the slats and then run a small cable between them to make them deploy/retract together, but then they wouldn't have been operating as efficiently ...

Originally Posted by Kurfürst

No springs at all. Its just there on roller slide or, in case of before the late 109F, a swing arm. The slats are simply sucked out into their open position by the airstream pressure due to their aerodynamic form.

You can actually push them in or pull them out with a finger on the ground.

Interesting stuff. Thanks for enlightening me guys.

[SG1_Gunkan]

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

The slats keys are for the Tiger Moth which had manually adjustable ones

I think BF109 can deploy manually the slats. Anyway it's clear that they are not modeled in the flight model.

[robtek]

Originally Posted by SG1_Gunkan

I think BF109 can deploy manually the slats. Anyway it's clear that they are not modeled in the flight model.

And how did you get that idea???
The slats are there!
They deploy automatically!
I can't test it in the FM as there is no option to have them not engaging in the right situation. ;-D

[Widow17]

my slats seem to work fine

[SG1_Gunkan]

Originally Posted by robtek

And how did you get that idea???
The slats are there!
They deploy automatically!
I can't test it in the FM as there is no option to have them not engaging in the right situation. ;-D

Yes, they are there, but there is no feedback in the Flight Model. The sltas were a really smart way to improve the low speed or near stall handling capacities of a plane. Even in the historical books they talk very good things about them. The BF109E3 response in CoD is like a plane without slats. Like FW190 or P51 in IL2.