IL2 and Sound Modding

[fly_zo]

ups.... many thanks to Jason too

Z

[fly_zo]

Originally Posted by Chivas

The EULA can be interpreted differently everytime it is dragged thru the legal system. The intention of the developer has a high priority in making the judgement.

The developers intention was to leave some aspects of the sim open for modding and other aspects encripted to protect his development techniques and fair on-line play.

There is no point in arguing with people who have no respect for the developers wishes, or understand from the history of other on-line sims, what effect it had on the on-line community. What I can't understand is if Modding so great why arn't you all modding and flying BOB WOV and the CFS series. In the CFS series the Maps, FM, DM, etc...have been modded for years...it should be perfect by now, but your all still here.

I get a laugh out of people who never fly on-line and never experienced the effects of hacks, tell us not worry, it won't be problem.

first level of "Invaders" again? ...........boring

and while onliners didn't give a s**t for offliners ( except insults) over the years .... why the hell should we consider them at all?

first level of "Invaders" again? ...........boring

[stalkervision]

Originally Posted by fly_zo

ups.... many thanks to Jason too

Z

I hear by give Jason the nickname "The Terminator"...

on second thought this one is much better " The Annihilator"




and he does it with such understated style too!

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by fly_zo

first level of "Invaders" again? ...........boring

Well ofcourse, you obviously didn`t have any ideas to get throught that level.

[fly_zo]

still addicted to quoting ....

Carguy ,it isn't healthy anymore

... and yes , hopefully someone will make mod for you "Invaders" too...

[BSS_Sniper]

Fly and Stalker, those kind of immature and snide remarks are exactly what will just push people away from anything you are trying to convey to them. That's what this community doesn't need.

[stalkervision]

Originally Posted by BSS_Sniper

Fly and Stalker, those kind of immature and snide remarks are exactly what will just push people away from anything you are trying to convey to them. That's what this community doesn't need.

Hay I am willing to be fair to anyone willing to meet me half way and be fair back. Aiways have been, always will be. I believe you left out a few people on your list there sniper didn't you? Maturity is a two way street buddy and this street always seems to only go one way.

[stalkervision]

This situation reminds me a lot of Bush and his constant call for the end of Partisan politics bickering between the democrats and the republicans. His idea of "healing" is for the democrats to give him and the republicans everything they want. Then he will "talk". Just exactly like this situation it appears.

Tell me one thing the non-modders are offering the modders in a compromise situation?

How about this so called " offer" No problem for you whatsoever about this individual and maturary levels or worrying about the community with this poster huh?

"it´s all a waste of time.
to argue with stalkervision and his lookalikes is of no use.
them people have, in my opinion, not the equipment for a real diskussion, i.e a functional brain.
to fight against stupidity is a lost cause.
of course there will be a reply and to everybody, except the previously called people, it will have no real meaning.
And to seperate the online and offline community;
When i started il2 i played offline, i had no need for a community. ok some people made skins, some missions that was fine, but no real community.
And it was still the dumb, cheating ai i was fighting, in short: offline is mostly for loners and the poor folks without internet.
That changed with online gaming. Intelligent adversaries, no two missions the same, contact and talking to people all over the world with the same interest, thats what i call a community.
Now i´m really writing too much, the people who fear for the community think like me and the other can´t or don´t want to understand.
robtek



we keep getting silly eula arguments and insults thrown at us right and left STILL which jason proved are total nonsense. I don't hear much talk whatsoever of real compromise from most of the other side that I have seen just more insults.

I call that immature.

all I ever hear is the phony bogus offer of the qusi-meaning word "healing"

No substance whatsoever just more spin...

until you guys ALL show that you want real compromise and not just bogus spin words like the word "healing" It will stay that way.

Frankly I have had way to many olive branches snapped in half and used to beat me with to care to offer anymore whatsoever.

Now it is all up to you to make some real offers.

Sniper are you even close to being functionally aware on even the most basic and lowest level of human consciousness and awareness next to being in a coma or asleep that calling someone's remarks " immature and snide" is an insult to that person all in it'self buddy? Apparently not...

Btw, that last sentence was a comment about your remarks. It has absolutely no direct reflection on you whatsoever.

[stalkervision]

back to more "compromise offers" by the on'liners I bet...

[ElAurens]

We go around and around, and still the hack supporters will not admit that they are killing the online aspect of this sim. The hacked FMs are showing up online. The Warbirds of Prey servers have already banned users for doing so, and they have the tracks to prove it. And still you say there is nothing to worry about.

You claim you want to "improve" the offline aspect of the sim. Great, it does need it. I have tried for six years of constant flying this sim to "get into" offliine and every time I try I walk away in frustration, because no matter how well constructed the campaign is, it still is totally lacking for me. So you lot want to fix it. Very laudable, but, how are you "fixing" it? By adding more flyable aircraft and maps, which is not the fundamental problem with offline. The problem is the AI. You know it and I know it, and so does Oleg.

Funny, I don't see any "AI mod".

No, you are just using the mantra of improvement as an excuse to play with a new toy, that's all there is to it.

You very often castigate the online players for not being concerned about the offline user. But from where I am standing, you don't give a rat's behind about the online player's very valid concerns about the monster that you guys let loose without being able to control it. If online collapsed tomorrow you lot wouldn't care one damn bit. Why should you? After all you have your shiny new toy to play with.

The fact that what you have done has pushed back the release of SOW:BoB, something that would benefit all of us in that it will have the ability to add user made items for offline use, goes right over your heads.

Oh the irony.

You can type paragraph after paragraph in an effort to justify your deed, but it is falling on deaf ears, for we see your work for what it is and we see you for what you are.

There will be no compromise.

There will be no peace.

Compromising and making peace with cheats and liars never works.