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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 11-02-2010, 12:40 PM
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WTF?

It's the final lap, they have a publisher and and a demo for nvidia.
This is the first time the light at then end of tunnel seems to be indeed daylight.
Let's hope so, by goodness!
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Old 11-02-2010, 01:37 PM
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I'm going now with

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plus a couple of HDDs for other stuff

If that doesn't run SoW which has been in development for 7+ years(?) then I won't bother buying it.
Obviously an i7 is not going to be a problem - but what would be nice, is to have a better understanding of the game's use of Physx and Tesselation, and whether it matters if we go nvidia or amd (ATI). Obviously both will work, but it could, for example, make good use of features that one card is better at.

Why are you going for a 5870, is that 2nd hand? It seems the new 6xxx series may be better value.

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WTF?

It's the final lap, they have a publisher and and a demo for nvidia.
This is the first time the light at then end of tunnel seems to be indeed daylight.)
Nope, that's another lost soul with his torch out
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Old 11-02-2010, 01:48 PM
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Nope, that's another lost soul with his torch out
Can't hold on much longer myself.
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Old 11-02-2010, 02:29 PM
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Why are you going for a 5870, is that 2nd hand? It seems the new 6xxx series may be better value.
You do know the 58xx is a totally different league?

68xx maybe newer and cheaper, but they are not meant to compete with the 58xx - the 68xx is more like a 460.

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A release in 2011 is NOT OK for me.

SoW is become more and more a neverending story like HALO, Duke Nukem Forever or Stalker. On the one hand, i can understand Oleg. He wants to make the simulation perfect. But on the other hand the wishes of the community are sometimes disgusting (different facial expressions or wind shear in perfection).

Sure Oleg could model some motion captured snails at the runway at last...

I am very disappointed about the promises of Oleg. "SoW will have thousands of players until october 2010..bla bla bla..."
I am willing to wait as long as the game is in final state when released. I'm fed up with 'half-done' titles being released every day now for the past few years. So, in a big NO I don't agree with you. If the had the chance to released in 2010 and decided to polish it up more before release - I welcome the decision wholeheartedly.

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If that doesn't run SoW which has been in development for 7+ years(?) then I won't bother buying it. Also SoW's only going to be 32bit. I expect the 64 bit version will run even better if it ever gets developed but that would take another 2 weeks :^)

Oleg confirmed there will be a x64 exe. On a similar note - DCS A-10C is a x64 sim, first ever released. So my bet is that with SoW we will have similar support, for both x32 and x 64.
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Old 11-02-2010, 03:02 PM
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I think now that its impossible to be a release in 2010
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Old 11-02-2010, 03:06 PM
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Are there any games being released in december?
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Old 11-02-2010, 03:08 PM
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Only heaps of junk pushed out of the door in time for Christmas, regardless of its state.
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Old 11-02-2010, 10:19 PM
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[QUOTE=Triggaaar;194691]Obviously an i7 is not going to be a problem - but what would be nice, is to have a better understanding of the game's use of Physx and Tesselation, and whether it matters if we go nvidia or amd (ATI). Obviously both will work, but it could, for example, make good use of features that one card is better at.

Why are you going for a 5870, is that 2nd hand? It seems the new 6xxx series may be better value.]

Hi Triggaaar
No the 5870 will be new.
I started with the 5000 series as I was impressed with the i7/5850 combination in my laptop. 5870 was the highest in the family I could afford and all review checks kicked Nvidia into touch.

Also, as far as I could see from quick google results the 6000 series was a marginal level of performance down on the 5000 series, especially the 5870/5890. In addition it is much cheaper than the 5870 so "surely not as good as the 5870 even if a strange jump in numbering" (yes, a wild assumption). Strange for a new release.

For example, looking here.....
http://www.pugetsystems.com/articles.php?id=82
See 5870 vs 6870, the 5870 outperforms the 6870 although it is 2Gb vs 1Gb.
But then in...
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Ha...phire_HD_6870/
The 6870 and 5870 swing around depending on the game, at stock speeds, although the 6870 uses less power.
And here...
http://techgage.com/article/amd_rade...6870_hd_6850/1
The 5870 beats the 6870 in virtually all comparisons except where heavy Tesselation is involved (no I'm not some expert - and as you say, will SoW use Tesselation?). One of their conclusions is
"The Radeon HD 6870 is about ~15% slower than the HD 5870, but costs much less ($240 from $400)."

I know there's not a huge difference reported between 6870 and 5870. So now I am wondering and looking forward to more opinions here.

"Oleg confirmed there will be a x64 exe"
Good. Hopefully on release
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Old 11-02-2010, 10:39 PM
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Actually I never tried an ATI. And Oleg saying it will look better on Nvidia doesn't help me change this trend.
If Oleg stated, that it would look as good on Ati I would definately buy the new 6970, because the new gtx 580 stuff of nvidia seems to be a "fail" again.
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