I am new here and I am going to say.........

[SleepTrgt]

Originally Posted by dennis580

Well you can call it whatever you want. The fact is there are 2 WWII Flight games coming out in Sept, and they ARE directly competing against other. I am only buying one of these games, and they are in direct competion for my $50, and other peoples $50.

Just because it comes out a week before Birds of prey?
If you check out both games you can clearly see they are both very different.

[dennis580]

The fact is they are WWII flight games one may be more hardcore, but as WWII flight games they are still directing competing against other. They are both WWII flight games, and that is the bottom line at the end of the day.

I admit I am not at all a hardcore flight sim fan, and that is why I am leaning towards Heros Over Eruope, but if Birds of Prey got far better reviews I would mostly like get it instead.

[Soviet Ace]

Originally Posted by dennis580

The fact is they are WWII flight games one may be more hardcore, but as WWII flight games they are still directing competing against other. They are both WWII flight games, and that is the bottom line at the end of the day.

I admit I am not at all a hardcore flight sim fan, and that is why I am leaning towards Heros Over Eruope, but if Birds of Prey got far better reviews I would mostly like get it instead.

That's like saying Wolfenstein and Call of Duty are competing with each other because they're both WW2 games, which neither is competing with one another.

[David603]

Originally Posted by Soviet Ace

That's like saying Wolfenstein and Call of Duty are competing with each other because they're both WW2 games, which neither is competing with one another.

Well, if Wolfenstein and Modern Warfare 2 both came out on the same day I think the impact on Wolfenstein's sales would make you realise they are competing against each other after all.

Heroes Over Europe and Birds of Prey aren't really competing against each other for the arcade and sim gamers, but there is a large proportion of the market who have not yet decided to buy either game, and the game that comes out first is more likely to secure impulse purchases.

[versapak]

Originally Posted by David603

Well, if Wolfenstein and Modern Warfare 2 both came out on the same day I think the impact on Wolfenstein's sales would make you realise they are competing against each other after all.

Heroes Over Europe and Birds of Prey aren't really competing against each other for the arcade and sim gamers, but there is a large proportion of the market who have not yet decided to buy either game, and the game that comes out first is more likely to secure impulse purchases.

The number of casuals that buy games on day one isn't exactly that high.


The people that buy games on day one are generally people that have been waiting for that game, and are informed about it.



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[David603]

Originally Posted by versapak

The number of casuals that buy games on day one isn't exactly that high.


The people that buy games on day one are generally people that have been waiting for that game, and are informed about it.

Or they walk into the store, see the big signs and the trailer running on the screen behind the counter and decide the game is worth a look, even though they haven't heard about it before. It does actually happen quite a lot.

[versapak]

Originally Posted by David603

Or they walk into the store, see the big signs and the trailer running on the screen behind the counter and decide the game is worth a look, even though they haven't heard about it before. It does actually happen quite a lot.

We are talking ONE week.


Seriously... The number of sales that they are likely to lose to casual gamers in that time is not that huge.

How much money do you seriously think Ubisoft is going to throw into pushing HOE? Customers aren't going to walk into the store and be hit by a media blitz for it.


It is a niche audience, and its advertising budget will reflect that.



BoP already has an excellent demo out there, and they have positive word of mouth from that going into release.

HOE has none of that. Far fewer people have even heard of HOE.


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