Is Birds of Prey coming out for PC too?

[Alter Hase]

Originally Posted by guiltyspark

they will make more money with a console version then they will with a pc version

Somehow i doubt, people hooked on consoles generally are not so keen to spend a lot of time on realistic and hard simulations.
Not even pc guys are "simualtion junkies" altough they focus more on complicated steep curve learning games, and are older.

Even with this being true its still bs. How the hell did they manage with a pc exclusive without "sinking" ?
Did pc IL2 players commited mass suicide so there is no one left to buy it for pc (Jesus i cant belive im saying this for a pc flight simulator, wer screwed)?

I am going to be a bastard now and say its simple greed combined with laziness.

[Raw Kryptonite]

Some of us old guys play both, you don't have to choose one or the other.
Over G Fighters is a console sim, BTW, IL2 won't be the first. It may not be LOMAC, but it's still a sim. Don't let the hokey mission briefings fool you. Brilliant game.

[Desode]

Yeah there are a lot of us old guys that play both. I have just got to the point where I'm tired after working a 40+ hr week and when I get a pc game for $50 (on Friday night) and have to spend 3 days getting it to run 100% right and then have to download 3 patches ! update this driver and that driver ! Just to to play a game I paid $50 for ! Geezz ! Its a crap shoot on pc anymore.

Don't get me wrong I still play pc games but I also have a 360 and a ps3. Its getting to the point where in a couple of years there isn't going to be a console game or a pc game its just going to be a multiplatform Game. Consoles are turning into Pc's , Heck they pretty much are now.

I say this in all honesty guys , enjoy calling games a "Pc Port" or a "Console Port" because we are in the last days of you being able to say that.

I think we are going to start seeing a lot more games coming to consoles that will use Mouse & Keyboard and have the Hard core values/options that pc games still hold the upper hand with right now. Its only a matter of time.

There is no stopping it(follow the money) ,so the Best thing you can do for the future of gaming is make your voices heard on what you want and expect in a Game. We need Gamers that are going to go to the Dev web sites( forums), and say " Hey I'm a gamer and I want this option and that option in every game PERIOD ! whether its on console or pc, it should be the same Exact game".

Sadly that is not what I see happening. I see tons of Pc gamers bashing every game that comes to console. I hear them say "OH,Well thats a console game it must be a bunch of arcade Crap !" or " Why is it only being made for console !" . Instead of statments like that , why not encourage the Game Developers to earn your money ? Tell them, Give us a Pc game on console and well give you our support.

Why would anyone who is a pc gamer not play a game on a console if it had M&K support and every option you currently have on PC ?
Plus it always works, with no hassle. Are there really people out there, that have the Branding name "PC Gamer" ingraved into their foreheads so deep that you wouldn't play your favorite game on a console ? Even if it had all the options you want and ran perfect everytime ? Plus you never had to download a patch or a update ?

I have been a Gamer my whole life, Since I was 6yrs old and PONG came out.
Then the Arcades, then C64 and then Nintendo and then PC's , then consoles !
People need to quit Branding themselves as a Pc gamer or a console gamer.

Please don't take this as a attack on Pc gamers because Console gamers are just as bad with somethings too. See most of them have no clue what kind of Gaming options they deserve for their money so they sometimes accept CRAP !

I know I'm Preaching so I'll shut up, Thanks for your time and consideration , Desode

[trk29]

Desode, which console are you buying it for?

[Raw Kryptonite]

I hear ya Desode.
I love flight games, but I almost dread when it comes in. I know that then I have to figure out the controls, decide what is priority, figure out a scheme, program the X-52, troubleshoot that...never really playing the game, due to backing out to fix something...I often get sick of it by the time it's done and find myself playing OGF again for a week or two. LOL

Keyboard/mouse...I'm not sure if I want that to happen on a console. Especially shooters. I refuse to play a shooter on the pc for the most part due to bots, silly mouse speed movement not in the spirit of the game etc. Not bashing, that's just personal preference. Pulling a trigger on a controller with vibration brings me into the game, and the speed of moving the weapon is slower, giving it "weight".

Still, I enjoy the PC for a lot of games I'm not likely to see on console, and Steam is just SO convenient. My friends are on the 360, and that along with Live, built in comms...yeah, they're just gaming PC's now, very dedicated and built to order. It's amazing what developers can get out of these machines. Instead of shooting the moon for graphics, forcing it out of the game with raw horsepower of an expensive graphics card, they use their intelligence to get the most out of a machine with fixed stats. They do better with a lower spec machines than some higher spec pc games with more horsepower, due to innovation. That's a good thing.

In the end, I'm on the PC once a week, but the 360 almost daily.
I just wish the games were PC priced. LOL

[Alter Hase]

Originally Posted by Raw Kryptonite

Keyboard/mouse...I'm not sure if I want that to happen on a console. Especially shooters. I refuse to play a shooter on the pc for the most part due to bots, silly mouse speed movement not in the spirit of the game etc. Not bashing, that's just personal preference. Pulling a trigger on a controller with vibration brings me into the game, and the speed of moving the weapon is slower, giving it "weight".

"silly mouse speed movement" lol speed means nothing, you missed it totally ...accuracy is why i prefer mouse speed as is not even secondary.
It gives better controll period.
Anyone who says "controller is better" is saying that a fps Doom 1 or 2 played with keyboard keys is better than mouse for looking around.

Controller allways filled me with disgust, tried it, and i hate, thumbs hurt after an hour.
And every game which was transfered from pc was dumbed down and slowed down.
I tried cod4 on a console and couldnt stop asking myself why is controller so praised, its more of a handicap. Plus, most of the fps games have autoaim turned on in game, wonder why, because accuracy is so good ....fail.

Console games for now are limited with both number of keys/key combinations, and also game types because of the controller.
I really dont know how could i play for example Silent Hunter 4 and i dont want to know as long as the controller is the primary mean of console game controll. Or a rts.

Originally Posted by Raw Kryptonite

I just wish the games were PC priced. LOL

Lol how much is the diffirence i heard the prices are pure rippofs?
Strange if you coinsider that "console games sale better than pc games" should they be cheaper, oh yeah i forgot, greeed. So much about pirates as a reason for high game prices.


Also someone said that with the pc "problems and patches never stop".
Pure myth dont know what are you doing with your pc because i dont remmber when was the last time i had problems with the pc itself antivirus and firewall i all you need and once in 4 months you update the graphics card driver other thing dont touch if you dont understand let it on default.

The games are getting crappier (rushed untested...... publisher greed nothing more) for example:

Cod4 - in more than a year of playing how many crashes......once
Fallout 3 - a console game "turned fast to pc version to get fallout fans milked" crash every 15 minutes

[Raw Kryptonite]

I was simply stating preference for how I prefer to game (more simulation than game/points based). I use both types of hardware so I get to pick and choose what I play and in what format. Enjoy your games how you want, I'm not concerned with it.
I'm not getting drawn any further into this ridiculous type of discussion, it's a waste of time and not why I'm here.

[Desode]

Originally Posted by trk29

Desode, which console are you buying it for?

I currently have it preordered for the 360, since I have a Ace Edge flightstick.

I may get it for the ps3 also, we'll just have to see when it comes out.
Desode