the raw numbers

[robtek]

Yep, thats part of the meaning of my post.
Thx for agreeing Igo_kyu.

[Igo kyu]

Originally Posted by robtek

Yep, thats part of the meaning of my post.
Thx for agreeing Igo_kyu.

I do agree that the Germans weren't fully committed to the BoB.

I am not convinced that if they had been fully committed they could have won with the forces at their disposal. What they might have been able to do if they had made many more aircraft and ships AND the British hadn't increased their own production to match it is a "might have been" of a much vaguer type.

Notice that Guderian says:

the lack of a sufficiently strong air force and of adequate shipping ... made it a completely hopeless undertaking.

Which is to say that in his opinion, the forces they had, even if used to their full potential, were insufficient.

wannabetheace wrote:

try to read my post if u don't mind reading long posts ^^.

I did read it, it seemed very one sided, if you ignore half the evidence on the grounds that it's propaganda, and take all of the other sides propaganda as absolute truth, then you will end up with a very biased and inaccurate position.

[Bobb4]

Flyable planes for the Luftwafe at any given time did not number more than 2000 to 3000 at any given time...
How you get figure of 90 000 planes built I will never know...
Take a look at this link and realise that at any given time the Luftwafe only had about 3000 pilots
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luftwaf...ths_(1940-1945)
Not arguing the case as the link is not a source i would overly trust.
Just hearing fantastical figure of planes produces seems nonsense.
I could be wrong but, 90 000 planes?
That would have made the Luftwaffe 18 000 strong during the battle of britain?

[Furio]

Originally Posted by Bobb4

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How you get figure of 90 000 planes built I will never know...

Take a look at this link and realise that at any given time the Luftwafe only had about 3000 pilots

For what I’ve read, one third of those 90.000 were Bf109 alone. Do you have different numbers?

Planes and pilots available at any given time is an ambiguous number. In this given time, how much severe is attrition? Think about Soviet losses in early days of Barbarossa. Think of Luftwaffe losses on the single day of Bodenplatte operation.

[Bobb4]

"The Bf 109 was produced in greater quantities than any other fighter aircraft in history, with a total of 33,984 units produced up to April 1945"
Just spotted this so I stand corrected.