New planes requests (from other threads/please pin it)

[Janosch]

I'd settle for bringing certain planes to a practical standard (missing fuel gauges)

[Tuco22]

Agree with the above two posts, 109's, 47's, Spits, etc could really use a cockpit retexture. With that said ill never get tired of more flyables though. Any updates a good update.

[Derda508]

Absolutely agree. While new flyables are always welcome (Me 210/410) I don´t think they are the most important missing parts.
Thanks to TD, we already have an almost unbelievable number of planes. A number that, from what I can see, no other Sim will ever reach. The same is true for maps and theaters. On the other hand, Il-2 1946 will never be able to reach the standards of graphics of more recent sims. So why try? Ok, bringing it closer might help to get some more pilots in their seats.
Thus, where Il-2 1946 shines most is offline, because of the number of planes and theaters, the huge community created content and because of the quality of AI. This is in many ways still far better than in the newer sims.
Still, we have some threads in this forum with very interesting ideas and suggestions of how to improve this even more. This would be number one of my personal wish-list.

But whatever you guys from TD do, be sure it is appreciatted.
Thank you very much indeed!

[RPS69]

We have lots of flyables without adequate missions for them.
I accept doing them for love, but what's the point on flying a rescue ship, where there are no rescue missions to implement fot it.

Pilot's rescue missions were most daring. They were flown everywhere, from the north sea, to the black sea, in europe, and the whole of the pacific scenery.

Those boats played the mine laying role also, and the long range scouts too.
But whats the point on flying them on il2, as bombers? fighters?

They were used on those roles where there was none other availale.

Be sure, I love them, more than many fighters, but I believe that we lack the mission functionality here to employ them as they should.

There are also some funny missions to be done, like flying Bismarcks Arado, trying to shot down the Swordfishs that will eventually bring it to his doom.

This sim, needs to evolve to a combat scenery, a low graphics one, but a whole combat scenery, just to bring more sense on campaign generation.

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by RPS69

We have lots of flyables without adequate missions for them.

This will be more of a problem once we get cargo and patrol aircraft into the game.

Not only will IL2 have to add new types of missions, but also new objects appropriate to the new missions.

Originally Posted by RPS69

Pilot's rescue missions were most daring. They were flown everywhere, from the north sea, to the black sea, in europe, and the whole of the pacific scenery.

Actually, it was very rare for seaplanes/flying boats to land to rescue men at sea. Waves were usually too high for planes to land or take off safely. Instead, patrol aircraft just directed rescue boats to survivors, and sometimes dropped supplies.

It would also be quite difficult for IL2 to handle actual rescue missions. How would the game determine how many survivors a plane can hold? How does it figure added mass from survivors, and the time needed for them to board the plane? Once aboard, can survivors be injured or killed by enemy fire? If the plane crashes, how do survivors bail out?

Also, the game would have to make a lot of changes to water animations in order to simulate high seas, wave direction, and interactions between waves and floating objects.

Originally Posted by RPS69

Those boats played the mine laying role also, and the long range scouts too.

Mine-laying missions would be easy. Basically, like bombing missions but with "bombs" with triggers that get delayed until a ship touches the mine (for contact mines) or comes within a certain distance of it (for magnetic or acoustic mines). Like torpedoes, mines can only be successfully laid if the player flies low and slow enough. Players would get points just for dropping mines in the assigned target area. Aerial mine objects would be simple to make and texture, and to add as new loadouts.

Scout missions already exist within the game.

Anti-Submarine Warfare and Artillery Spotting Missions would require some new objects and game programming.

[CzechTexan]

I was just browsing an old website that I haven't visited in a few years and came across photos of LaGG-3 aircraft with skis. I'm assuming they were used in a ground attack role because most of them were equipped with rockets. There are photos showing later series 29 aircraft in 1942-43. I think it would be a good addition. Personally, I like attacking ground targets so I would enjoy having a LaGG with skis on the list.

Since we already have the LaGGs then it might be an easy fix to add skis to one of them (series 29?).

Link: http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/lagg3/ski/ski.htm

[RPS69]

Originally Posted by Pursuivant

Actually, it was very rare for seaplanes/flying boats to land to rescue men at sea. Waves were usually too high for planes to land or take off safely. Instead, patrol aircraft just directed rescue boats to survivors, and sometimes dropped supplies.

Check the german boats activity over the black sea. Or even the He115 over barents sea. You will be surprised.

American PYB also see a lot of this kind of action.

[_1SMV_Gitano]

Originally Posted by RPS69

Check the german boats activity over the black sea. Or even the He115 over barents sea. You will be surprised.

American PYB also see a lot of this kind of action.

+1

Luftwaffe and Regia Aeronautica ASR activity was remarkable in the MTO too.

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by RPS69

Check the german boats activity over the black sea. Or even the He115 over barents sea. You will be surprised.

I'm not familiar with seaplane/flying boat ops in those areas. But, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if there were far more direct rescues in the Black and Mediterranean Seas. Waves don't get as big in smaller bodies of water, and due to nature of the coastlines there probably were more rescues in harbors and other sheltered areas.

I'll take your word that there were direct rescues in the Barents Sea. It seems a bit odd since there's ice for much of the year, and the cold water temperatures usually mean that water survival time is measured in minutes. No use risking an airplane and the lives of its crew just to pick corpses out of the water. But, I'm sure that some rescue planes crews took the risk and saved lives by doing so.

On the Western Front, the waves in the North Sea, Bay of Biscay, and English Channel were often too high for rescue planes to land. But there were still many rescues - especially in the English Channel, with the He-115, Supermarine Walrus, and PBY Catalina doing most of the work.

If IL2 ever decides to get into seaplane ops in the Mediterranean, an important aircraft to add to the wishlist is the CANT Z.501 Gabbiano. It was a real workhorse which suffered a lot of casualties.

[Treetop64]

+1 for the retexturing/rebuilding of existing cockpits over bringing in yet moar planes. The new pits for the Polikarpovs are great. The 109s and MiG-3s in particular are long overdue for an interior makeover and, for latter, exterior makeover as well.

An unbelievable amount of planes is in the game already, many of which I still haven't flown despite more than a decade of playing the game. Would rather see what is already there be further refined than to cram in more stuff.

If anything is going to be added, what the game could really benefit from is more ship types, especially the conspicuously absent Pacific types.