Il-2 MODs

[311thCopperhead]

Originally Posted by LEXX

Weasel (to Copper)
Yea I saw that too.

Unfounded. right.
there is a donation space rigth there on there site.
And i've been told that thier new unified installer....does not require that you 1st have the game installed.

unfounded....no i don't think so.

[Brain32]

Originally Posted by LEXX

Brain::
Actually, anonymous public servers always had severe problems with cheaters using game exploits, long before the mods came out.

If you are refering to proppitch age and stuff like that sorry but no sale, otherwise you could accuse anybody flying overmodelled plane a cheater - that's just too ridiculous...

[flyingbullseye]

Originally Posted by 311thCopperhead

And i've been told that thier new unified installer....does not require that you 1st have the game installed.

You've been told but don't know from first hand experience? I've got to believe you are better than that. How would the unified installer work when there is nothing for it to install to if you don't need the sim installed first?

Flyingbullseye

[311thCopperhead]

Originally Posted by LEXX

zo (about copper) ::
copper did that, lol. What was that all about?

Yeah i did. Was sent to me in an email from some one months ago when this whole thing 1st came up. the conversations as on what to watch for in a possible cheater. When i asked them the question...
"So umm how easy is it gonna be for the hackers to just rape everyone in the server with out getting caught?"

thier reply was a folder with all of the FM's. ALL OF THEM.
"All you do is edit the text files and repack the sfs. It's as imple as text editing a .mis file for a coop. the smart cheaters will buff their engine performance, and dm just enough not to get caught, but enough to own just about anyone."

Since i don't know what to do with this stuff i....even if i were the sort to use it, which i am not.....basically the point was to demonstraight how easy it has now become to cheat. yet, my attempt at making the point is moot since i have absolutley ZERO idea what would be doing.

I'll leave that to the pro haxxors kiddies over on that other site.
But that's how it came about. and i was attempting to show how easy it would be...and rather badly i might add.

[311thCopperhead]

Originally Posted by flyingbullseye

You've been told but don't know from first hand experience? I've got to believe you are better than that. How would the unified installer work when there is nothing for it to install to if you don't need the sim installed first?

Flyingbullseye

I have not...nor will i ever download the trash posted on that web site.
I i fear that my PC may spontanously combust.
So no i have not tested it to see but rather am relying on information from
some one i'm freinds with on the inside over there. One of thier most trusted guys. The same person who sent me the FM's. One of the reasons i'm so up in arms about it. i KNOW what's going on behind the curtain.

and some of you can apint it any color you like but it's still gonna look like dog$hit in the end.

As for me proving the claims i make are not unfounded....the burden of proof lies with those whom think i'm BS'ing them. So prove what i've said is unfounded. prove it. i dare you. prove me wrong. you can't and you know it.

[LEXX]

Brain::

If you are refering to proppitch age and stuff like that sorry but no sale, otherwise you could accuse anybody flying overmodelled plane a cheater - that's just too ridiculous...

Well that's what happened. Everybody accused everybody of cheating with game exploits, even accusing Offline-only players, and begged Oleg to close every exploit, years before the mods. The serious online community escaped the snotty gamer behavior in private servers, which is why the mods are not hurting the online community now.

If you wish to talk more about this, we can talk.

[fly_zo]

...well , all we have is FM post which was real and spotted by many, and lot's of :" i don't know hacking .... it was sent to me .... i'm honest , i wouldn't never ever" statements which can not get confirmed nor checked ...

Fact remains that FM has been posted in public forum .... there isn't one good and honest reason why would one do that no matter how he obtained data .

Z

[flyingbullseye]

Originally Posted by 311thCopperhead

And i've been told that thier new unified installer....does not require that you 1st have the game installed.

Again how does that work without the sim?

[Urufu_Shinjiro]

Originally Posted by 311thCopperhead

I have not...nor will i ever download the trash posted on that web site.
I i fear that my PC may spontanously combust.
So no i have not tested it to see but rather am relying on information from
some one i'm freinds with on the inside over there. One of thier most trusted guys. The same person who sent me the FM's. One of the reasons i'm so up in arms about it. i KNOW what's going on behind the curtain.

and some of you can apint it any color you like but it's still gonna look like dog$hit in the end.

As for me proving the claims i make are not unfounded....the burden of proof lies with those whom think i'm BS'ing them. So prove what i've said is unfounded. prove it. i dare you. prove me wrong. you can't and you know it.

You're source is lying to you, period, end of story. You ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO HAVE IL2 1946 INSTALLED AND PATCHED TO 4.08 IN ORDER TO GET THE UNIFIED INSTALLER TO WORK!!!!!!

In fact I did a fresh install and applied the unified installer and it didn't work, because I had forgotten to install the 4.08m patch.


Brain32, you are correct that we are guilty of throwing all anti-mod people in with the mods=cheat crowd, and for that I apologize. I've said before that I understand and respect the position of those who have thought it out honestly and still don't want to partake. It's the ones who spread flames, BS, and lies and do it loudly and with much venom that I rail against.

But to suggest that there was no cheating before the mods is ridiculous, I know you've been around for some time, I'm familiar with your handle, you should know better, there have been cheaters since the original il2. There has always been the suspicion of cheating as well, anytime I was on teamspeak with a group of people (way before the mods) and there was a person or a group of pilots that came in and started owning the whole server everyone in there would scream "cheat!" and start speculating about how they are cheating. Actual cheating and the suspicion of cheating are nothing new in this sim, it's always been there. Perhaps suspicion is up slightly but the actual cheating hasn't increased as far as I can tell.

[JG27CaptStubing]

Originally Posted by 311thCopperhead

Yeah i did. Was sent to me in an email from some one months ago when this whole thing 1st came up. the conversations as on what to watch for in a possible cheater. When i asked them the question...
"So umm how easy is it gonna be for the hackers to just rape everyone in the server with out getting caught?"

thier reply was a folder with all of the FM's. ALL OF THEM.
"All you do is edit the text files and repack the sfs. It's as imple as text editing a .mis file for a coop. the smart cheaters will buff their engine performance, and dm just enough not to get caught, but enough to own just about anyone."

Since i don't know what to do with this stuff i....even if i were the sort to use it, which i am not.....basically the point was to demonstraight how easy it has now become to cheat. yet, my attempt at making the point is moot since i have absolutley ZERO idea what would be doing.

I'll leave that to the pro haxxors kiddies over on that other site.
But that's how it came about. and i was attempting to show how easy it would be...and rather badly i might add.

Man you really spread this stuff on thick.... FUD seems to be your MO.

Since you seem to be in the know it's pretty clear you aren't after some of the comments you've made.

Let's just say there is a surprise coming.