Il-2 MODs

[SlipBall]

Hacking this sim was bad idea! It only increased the work load for Oleg, and delivered the eliment of doubt for on-line competition.

[fireflyerz]

One small point which I think has bin vastly overlooked...in order to use the mods you have to have had the Doovde version of the game as the the download version didnt work with the mods , enough said on that matter as it speaks for its self in terms of sales . AAA have done a good job at keeping a lid on the cheating and have done alot more in terms of atracting new commers to the genere and keeping them immersed and interested in what was a very outdated game by todays standards , its true to say that if I was OLeg I would have bin very angry at somone crackin my game , but I think now he may be using it as a bench mark of what people expect from his future products , this is Jafa ,hoping for better sounds in Storm of War , signing off....

[MD_Wild_Weasel]

Originally Posted by SlipBall

Hacking this sim was bad idea! It only increased the work load for Oleg, and delivered the eliment of doubt for on-line competition.

Ha, have you actually looked at the mods?
http://www.allaircraftarcade.com/forum/
you dont have to download them to have a look. and check out the "work in progress" aircraft.. wellington bomber being on of them. oleg should employ them , we may get B.O.B quicker

[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by MD_Wild_Weasel

Ha, have you actually looked at the mods?
http://www.allaircraftarcade.com/forum/
you dont have to download them to have a look. and check out the "work in progress" aircraft.. wellington bomber being on of them. oleg should employ them , we may get B.O.B quicker

I'm not saying that the mods are done poorly, some might be quite good. I am saying that when you have a sim with a large on-line following. People need to show some respect for the community at large. They need to sacrifice what could be, so that all will have faith that the sim is secure, and fair to one and all. To burden 1C with the extra work, only effect's the lot of us, with longer wait time for what we want, 4.09, and SOW

[MD_Wild_Weasel]

slipball, how can this be a burden to 1C? Oleg has already stated that he needs to turn his attention to BOB. 409 is way down on his 2 do list . and if you think he still is ,how long does he want from beta release, Its been a year maybe?
anyway AAA have done a good job with keeping things above board as much as they can..
Also food for thought , the code was cracked and released by a russian . go figure

[MOH_Hirth]

Rigth now there a new mode with intermitent fire on plane, like we see in guncam videos, tell me if this is not a progress and good idea? And i have shure SOW will be much better
if let space for freedon of creation.

[311thCopperhead]

Hmmmm what do i think about the Mods.

I think they suck. 1/2 @ss done trash by ppl who have next to zero idea what thier doing. the majority of wich are passing out cheat files in private amongst themselvs like thier halloween candy. All under the guise of "we're making the sim better". then they're asking for "DONATIONS" to thier web site.
they are taking a profit off of other peoples hard work. thier bleeding the life blood right out of the sim while at the same time draining Olegs pockets dry. and most of the garbage they've put out would never meet Olegs high standerds.
Not to mention they have even further devided a comunity that was already splinterd. If you choose to fly a CLEAN install online...good luck finding a server or a coop in with to do it. You can literally count on one hand the servers that specifiy they are mod free on one hand. and lets face it. not all of them are tha golden angels they claim to be. there are a great many of the mod users who are just out for the exploits and mod files so they can pad thier kill counts and thier egos.
CFS2 died becuse of BS like this in case anyone cares to remember. (not the only reason i know, but it was the contributing factor in it's down fall.)

As of tonight however it seems that thier web site is down. one can only wonder if it's due to thier web host shuting them down for failure of payment for the monster fees they have accumulated or if Oleg finally has had enough and had them shut down due to infringment. Whatever the case may be....good ridance. don't let the door hit ya in the @ss on the way out.

that's what i think about em. While ican't say that over at the UBIzoo anymore with out being threatend witha perma-ban...i can sure as heck say it here.

as for what Oleg thinks about it....was posted on another thread here.

and for those hack kids who seem to be deaf dumb and blind to olegs opinion on all this, in spite of his other open statements he made showing how damaging all this hack nonsense is.

from a recent russian forum post by oleg...

"В общем так. Будет 4.09, но не знаю еще когда. Там будет защита от хакеров нового типа. Вопрос в том, что это может иногда ухудшить скорость передачи данных. Мы могли это сделать и раньше, но не делали именно поэтому.
Мы могли вообще все на компьютере юзера проверять, но это было бы противозаконно (хотя наиболее просто и действенно...).
В общем мешают нам нормально БоБ-ом заниматься... Готовились только дополнение выпустить, а теперь придеться отложить... пока не сделаем, что сказал.
Не люблю я читеров.... И Ил-2 не предназначался для моддеров... Поэтому так долго и живет в онлайне..."

roughly translates as.... (ivan can maybe be more accurate)

"So - there'll be 4.09 patch, don't know how soon yet. 4.09 patch will have protection from this hack, but it will sometimes increase traffic load. We could do it before, but did not do it for this reason.
The easiest way - do some checks at client side, it will be very effective but illegally.
All this problems delay readiness of addon for IL-2 and BOB"
Also, Oleg said that he don't like cheaters and Il2 was not supposed to have mods. That's why it popular in online long time.


did the hack kiddies miss the points oleg made ?
- its delaying work on BoB !
- its delaying the 4.09 release for the rest of us
- the hack crap will be closed again shortly, so go back under the rock where you came from, and stroke eachother there without bothering the rest of us with your juvenile crap
- hacking files results in cheating online, and this makes il2 less popular in online use
- the new hack fix will increase BW demands, and could make it much harder for low BW people to play online

[MD_Wild_Weasel]

wow copperhead, such strong views there m8, As i am a regualer flyer on HL lets point out some facts .
1) most of the people who fly Il2 are of an average age of 45.(our oldest memeber in MD was 86)Infact one our our members is an university lecturer. Unless they have some serious issue`s with their personality why would they wanna cheat? I For one am 34 , I DO NOT CHEAT nor do i have the desire to cheat.
2) The people at AAA have strong views on making sure that exsiting FM or load out is NOT changed .And that Mods that are introduced are HISTORICAL with factual evidence
3) The aaa have introduced a "unified Mod Installer" which if everyone downloaded , servers could run at Check time =2
3) The mods that are available on the aaa website consist of the following:
cockpit re-paints, mirrors , ai cockpits, exhaust stack smoke , tyre screech, bullet impact sounds, new planes to name a few..

Copperhead, im not trying to covert peeps, but saying that quote"I think they suck. 1/2 @ss done trash by ppl who have next to zero idea what thier doing. the majority of wich are passing out cheat files in private amongst themselvs like thier halloween candy."is rather rude and slanderous, where is your evidence man? If also i could offer some advice? If you having trouble with cheats, fly smart. Cheaters usually come in the form of spotty faced kidz(sorry for the stereotype here) who cant be bothered to learn the hard way.These types of people usually fly low `n` slow in TnB fights.. Easy meals mate.

[Razer]

Originally Posted by 311thCopperhead

As of tonight however it seems that thier web site is down. one can only wonder if it's due to thier web host shuting them down for failure of payment for the monster fees they have accumulated or if Oleg finally has had enough and had them shut down due to infringment. Whatever the case may be....good ridance. don't let the door hit ya in the @ss on the way out.

....

Originally Posted by MrJolly

So every is clear about what happened yesterday 29th dec 08 ...

Hostdime Hosts our site here & they had some serious problems regarding DNS name servers this meant that you were unable to access the site with the normal address

Everything is now back to normal & there has been no data loss anywhere.

Jolly

[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by MD_Wild_Weasel

slipball, how can this be a burden to 1C? Oleg has already stated that he needs to turn his attention to BOB. 409 is way down on his 2 do list . and if you think he still is ,how long does he want from beta release, Its been a year maybe?
anyway AAA have done a good job with keeping things above board as much as they can..
Also food for thought , the code was cracked and released by a russian . go figure

The burden I think was to change SOW code, so as to not have it fall victim again, as in IL2. They had to rewrite it, to kindof make it "child proof" if you follow my drift. Also 4.09 needed many more man hours to try and stop the leak...a Russian is probably the only one that could read the code