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Old 12-09-2008, 08:32 PM
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i agree that tempest should be fastest. i've been trying to outrun D9s at low altitude in spits v 109s thinking the tempest would be able to get away. won't do that again
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Old 12-09-2008, 08:50 PM
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In July 1944, Beaumont had his Wing using 150 fuel. At 500ft his a/c was doing 415mph.
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Old 12-09-2008, 10:07 PM
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i agree that tempest should be fastest. i've been trying to outrun D9s at low altitude in spits v 109s thinking the tempest would be able to get away. won't do that again
Just keep it in the 1000 meter range and you'll be closer to the maximum speed in the stage 1 supercharger setting and be able to outrun almost everything. At sea level the FW190D-9 with MW50 (the 1945 model) is faster than pretty much everything...even the super fast La-7 is left in the dust at sea level.
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Old 12-11-2008, 10:11 AM
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Old 12-11-2008, 11:43 AM
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Still, not even calculated data for 13lbs, probably because both Sabre engines couldn't handle 150 grade fuel as it's well documented in every book dealing with Tempests.
Sure they did tests with it, but engines couldn't deal with it, that's why full 11lbs came for SabreIIb which did not need 150 grade fuel for 11lbs.
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Old 12-11-2008, 12:56 PM
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Oh Brain, W/Cdr Roland Beamont had his Wing (3, 56, 486 Sqns) using 150 grade fuel and 11lb boost in July 1944.

Codex, nice chart but no Ta152 flew with the DB603L engine. The V 6, 7 and 8 used DB603E engines. Calculated numbers, they are.
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Old 12-11-2008, 02:19 PM
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If that is from the same book I think it is, you will also notice that was only emergency period during V1 threat and that after that due to numerous problems they reverted back to 9lbs until ofcourse they got IIb engine upgrades which allowed 11lbs without use of 150 grade fuel...
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Old 12-11-2008, 03:23 PM
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Nices posts here, i hope Oleg give the priority to revision on FM in 4.09, is a work were Oleg is the best, and this is the more important detail for the game.
What you think about the velocity Ta152-C in game?
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Old 12-12-2008, 06:15 PM
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If that is from the same book I think it is, you will also notice that was only emergency period during V1 threat and that after that due to numerous problems they reverted back to 9lbs until ofcourse they got IIb engine upgrades which allowed 11lbs without use of 150 grade fuel...
Completely false.

If you look at this .pdf of a RAF report on the use of 150 grade fuel:

http://www.spitfireperformance.com/1.../appendixa.pdf

...you will see that the performance of the Tempests using 150 grade fuel and +11 boost was deemed:

"...very successful" No sign of the "...numerous problems..." Brain claims.

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Old 12-13-2008, 10:14 AM
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Oh geeez, and people wonder why Oleg stopped posting ROFL. So you picked one document that is pretty funny if you read it carefully.
First of all they announce no problems but immidiately in the first paragraph they mention spark fouling so OK not a big problem they say and then the document continues with a brief summary:
SpitIX/Merlin 66 - backfires!!! if that is not a problem then what is, Osama flying airshow program over BigBen? Ok so they believe this can be solved by retarding the ignition, believing in something will work and it actually workings is a bit different I would say...
If things were so great why reverting back immidiately after V1 threat stopped?

SpitXIV - no failures that could be associated by use of higher grade fuel hmm interesting, again: If things were so great why reverting back immidiately after V1 threat stopped? Just for reminders +21lbs never saw combat in the war(which ended about a year after that), while +25lbs never showed up. Why?

MustangIII - just read, even during the operations they had to lower the boost.

Tempest/SabreIIa - allegedly no problems, not what I've heard but OK even like this, why reverting back to 9lbs immidiately after V1 threat stopped? Also since I generally want to talk about 13lbs for which I claim was a rarity no lesser than TA-152C oe 109K4C3 this is what R. Dennis said about it:
"All our machines were fitted with Rotol airscrews when the maximum rpm were increased to 3,850 from 3,700 and boost to +13 from +11, as the DeHaviland airscrew could not absorb the added power and more than once shed a blade, with somewhat detrimental effects on the engine!"

Wow sounds really reliable, squadron service imminent - in Japan as Kamikaze lol

Also one note from most favourite site for certain types of people:
"The writers have not yet found any flight trials with engine limitations set at +13 lbs./sq.in. & 3,850rpm. We would be grateful if anyone having such material could contact us."
Yeah I really wonder why there is no such stuff lol
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