Il2 sturmovik original fight model was different?

[jermin]

Don't want to start a fight, but this is not your territory either. Stop being sounding like a host. Actually I was here 4 years before you came. Just sit and watch, mate.

[JtD]

The flight models never were more realistic than they are now. In Il-2 early days, AI occasionally swapped the plane around and continued chasing you tail first. Quite a sight. Unfortunately I can't find a youtube video.

[Luno13]

You mean, like, flying backwards? Whoa man, I'm trippin' out.

[JtD]

Originally Posted by Luno13

You mean, like, flying backwards? Whoa man, I'm trippin' out.

Yes, exactly. It was a rare thing to happen, but happened.

Generally it was easier flying backwards, pulling up vertical and then start a tailslide. I managed to go under a bridge, turn the plane around and continue flying that way, as well as several backwards landings.

Good old days, was a lot of fun. But certainly not realistic.

[fruitbat]

There used to be a vid showing an i16 flying under a bridge, pulling up vertical until it stalled without any wingdip and then flying backwards under the bridge and -300kph.

Anyone who thinks that the fms have been dumbed down and are less realistic now, is on the crack pipe.

[RPS69]

Originally Posted by JtD

Yes, exactly. It was a rare thing to happen, but happened.

Generally it was easier flying backwards, pulling up vertical and then start a tailslide. I managed to go under a bridge, turn the plane around and continue flying that way, as well as several backwards landings.

Good old days, was a lot of fun. But certainly not realistic.

This was true. Not only flight models were coarse, but gunnery was fantastic. You could hit a bomber with a 45mm form 1Km away on those times easily. Thing are far better as they are right now.

[JtD]

Originally Posted by RPS69

This was true. Not only flight models were coarse, but gunnery was fantastic. You could hit a bomber with a 45mm form 1Km away on those times easily. Thing are far better as they are right now.

Yeah, you're right, had forgotten about that. Set convergence to 1km, get the crosshair over that pixel sized bomber and down it went. It was a great way to stay away from the sniper gunners of back then.

[RPS69]

Originally Posted by JtD

Yeah, you're right, had forgotten about that. Set convergence to 1km, get the crosshair over that pixel sized bomber and down it went. It was a great way to stay away from the sniper gunners of back then.

The other jewel was the Mig 3, you could bring it out of longitudinal stability, and go out flying as a shuriken. It was a flat spin at high speed. Then was the 190 slower than il2.

Also landing at some point was very difficult, because a P39 won't slow down.

Later came the 190 and i16 rolling over at take off, if at full throttle. But this was allready FB. We have to relearn this sim plenty of times, and allways there was someone discordant with the flight model. Right now, it will be better to stop for a while on that, and take care on other aspects much more important for the improvement of this sim. Specially playability.