Announcement of the game "IL-2 Sturmovik: Battle of Stalingrad"

[BlackSix]

Originally Posted by Pluto

.... what now, no Battle of Moscow sequel to merge with CloD anymore ?

.... completely new sim with every plane and every little instrument to pay for like in ROF ?

1) BoS will not merge with CloD because BoS based on the Digital Nature engine (777 Studios Technology)
2) The BOS business model will have some similar aspects with ROF, but it will not be identical.

Zapatista said:

just compare the ground textures in RoF and the lack of detail, and the fact it cant handle high object count or high level scenery detail

This is silly. Any decent rendering engine is scaleable (and modular to some extent). The devs optimise rendering routines according to preferred frame-rates and current hardware. These can and do change.

and they wont even try, all they will now do is create a few ww2 era planes and insert it into the old bland RoF world and sell the new aircraft to you one at a time

This is Chivas-style prediction, but instead of rose-tinted never-never you have woe-is-me. Wait to see what happens before you condemn it. If it is no good, condemn it to your heart's content.

This was the plague that infested Clod - seeing things for what one wished them to be, and not what they were/are (a fraction of the intended article, with some highly polished chrome bits glued-on to an ailing skeleton).

[Stublerone]

Bye IL2 series. I will switch back on old il2 with hsfx and seow campaigns, seeing many of the old pilots are currently back to fly more seow.

ROF engine really has a lot of work to do to match ww2 recommendations. Awiaiting no profit, worse graphics, less details in landscape and flight characteristics. Hopefully you all go to ROF and destroy also their approach with claiming ebery little aspect in fm's.

This new com is good in that.

Waiting another 2-3 years from now and perhaps we see each other in 2015, but chances are nearly zero, that the passioned guys will come. Let us see!

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by J.Reb

I paid money in good faith for CLoD, and never received the working product.

Will you return my money?

i think i can help you there, just step this way to my car, i have something in the boot i'd like to show you

btw, whats your favored desert plant ?

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by furbs

You seem to forget Bliss that what ever Luthier had done with CODs engine over the last year for the sequel and showed to the people in charge in June didn't cut it, hence the end of the sequel.

nonsense

1c management only stuck it out with oleg's delays because of olegs reputation and long track record of success. they didnt fund it because they liked it, they didnt fund it because they thought it was good, they funded it because its high reputation in the sim community gave them kudos and improved the reputation of their company as a whole

once they realized 7 years to late that they should have watched over it more closely, they had the next manger (luthier) on a very short leech and him having to constantly justify every decision he made, with them breathing down his neck to start getting it to make money for them and recoup some of their losses

Originally Posted by furbs

the negotiations with 777 and 1C have been underway.

to 1c management 777 is like a wet dream, imagine selling people a game and every month you resell them some bit of trivia addon, perpetually milking the customers further. but here is the catch, its a parasitic sales model that is not sustainable. do you really think that the same people who just spent 500$ on RoF in the last 2 years are ready to do it again for the next game they come up with, i think not.

[furbs]

Yes COD didn't make any money because it wasn't any good, the sequel would of gone the same way.

Zap, its sad that COD didn't make it, we all wished it was the sim we all wanted but it isn't.

Its gone, dead.

Get used to it, your acting like a fish on the beach, flipping and flopping in its death throes, and its not pretty to watch.

[furbs]

If they next sim by 777 and 1C is rubbish, by all means cut it to ribbons, post away criticizing it.

I dont have a problem with that, if it deserves it.

Lets wait and see what they do first eh?

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by Rjel

Time to move on.

but to what exactly my good man ?

see that's the catch, you now have NOTHING

and the same people who moan and whine the loudest about the delays with CoD in the last 18 months are now magically happy to wait for some inferior product sometime in 2 years time ?

you HAD 80% of something truly amazing, and your now happy to exchange that for 0% of something way inferior in 2 years time, the mind truly boggles how you can see that as positive news for hardcore flightsim fans

[312_Jura]

Originally Posted by zapatista

but to what exactly my good man ?

see that's the catch, you now have NOTHING

and the same people who moan and whine the loudest about the delays with CoD in the last 18 months are now magically happy to wait for some inferior product sometime in 2 years time ?

you HAD 80% of something truly amazing, and your now happy to exchange that for 0% of something way inferior in 2 years time, the mind truly boggles how you can see that as positive news for hardcore flightsim fans

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWdd6_ZxX8c

[Wolf_Rider]

its not an "opinion" sport, its a fact