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Old 12-11-2012, 09:55 PM
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it's p-51d with another prop and a little bit worse speed? and how much worse this version? i think, even if - 10 kph, it's reason for...

plus, p-51d now 25 lbs, if I'm not mistaken, so need and 18 lbs performance...

and mustang III in game have realistic performance? apparently, it's 25 lbs, but with >605 kph at sl...



i agree with you, 20mm gun, but not mg151/20 it's good for balance, historically correct and, maybe, DT can do this version without correct ammo counter? if i'm not mistaken, yak-9k - "На приборной доске в кабине летчика был установлен счетчик оставшихся снарядов пушки." - but, and nothing...

although, it's not serious changes and we can wait, and when plane are correct it's good... but and variant when f-1 included and finished off later, i think, not so unacceptable...

next, if we talking about Fs, what about f-2 with and f-4 without armor glass (it's protection, of course, and + - 10 kph?, i seen and read something like this, so, why not if this historically correct and can changed performance of aircraft)…

and generally speaking, maybe, for all aircrafts need some new mechanism or new option like choice of loadouts, skins, etc, for different equipment, although, sometimes more optimal it’s "different" planes of one type how now...
Yep...not sure why we'd want a P-51K. Produced in a different factory with a different but similar propeller, a slightly differently shaped canopy, and I think one of the vents uses a different design but aside from that it's a carbon copy of the P-51D and in no way a benefit for us to have it. I would like to see an additional P-51D model with the higher boost and HVAR rocket attachments for Pacific operations. If memory serves, by the time Mustangs were in the Pacific they were cleared for higher boost than the ones in Europe were typically.

The Mustang Mark III currently represents a V-1 chaser and is supposed to have +25lb boost (it may also represent the highly polished wings and exceptional care that was taken by the ground crews to ensure the aircraft was in tip top shape). It was very fast IRL and in-game but I'm not sure if the performance is accurate to the exact numbers or not.

A F-1 with a MG-FF hub cannon would be potentially useful, definitely. The armoured windscreen thing I can see being less useful versus time it would take to set it up.

I don't read Russian... so what about the Yak-9K?
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Old 12-11-2012, 11:20 PM
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Yep...not sure why we'd want a P-51K. Produced in a different factory with a different but similar propeller, a slightly differently shaped canopy, and I think one of the vents uses a different design but aside from that it's a carbon copy of the P-51D and in no way a benefit for us to have it.
in total agree, but if DT wanted rework p-51s, do K maybe it's not so hard especially if he more slowly (it's main reason)...

well, it's all mainly something like "perfection", of course...

if need to select, more D-xx with new weapon for all theaters (what really need, agree with many opinions here), or K, my choice D and hvar etc too...

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The Mustang Mark III currently represents a V-1 chaser and is supposed to have +25lb boost (it may also represent the highly polished wings and exceptional care that was taken by the ground crews to ensure the aircraft was in tip top shape). It was very fast IRL and in-game but I'm not sure if the performance is accurate to the exact numbers or not.
oh, exactly, "polished" etc... forgot about this... and i asked because wanted to say, if mustang III have correct performance, maybe need mustang IV who intercepted V-1 too (how i read)...

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The armoured windscreen thing I can see being less useful versus time it would take to set it up.
maybe, you not flying much times against pe-2 ? shkas very dangerous for pilot of E/F, especially without armor glass - more than UBT, i think, because many times was "killed" or had damaged oil cooler, sometimes, even oil cooler+lost ailerons at >500 m - and if you climbing behind fast "peshka" (main attack position in online wars)... plus, glass reduce speed... well, 2 reasons, why not...

of course, it's only my opinion and i'm writing too many little things...

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I don't read Russian... so what about the Yak-9K?
if author of book, Степанец, right, yak-9k had ammo counter, only for ns-45, and we not have this in game...
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Old 12-13-2012, 01:05 AM
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in total agree, but if DT wanted rework p-51s, do K maybe it's not so hard especially if he more slowly (it's main reason)...

well, it's all mainly something like "perfection", of course...

if need to select, more D-xx with new weapon for all theaters (what really need, agree with many opinions here), or K, my choice D and hvar etc too...



oh, exactly, "polished" etc... forgot about this... and i asked because wanted to say, if mustang III have correct performance, maybe need mustang IV who intercepted V-1 too (how i read)...



maybe, you not flying much times against pe-2 ? shkas very dangerous for pilot of E/F, especially without armor glass - more than UBT, i think, because many times was "killed" or had damaged oil cooler, sometimes, even oil cooler+lost ailerons at >500 m - and if you climbing behind fast "peshka" (main attack position in online wars)... plus, glass reduce speed... well, 2 reasons, why not...

of course, it's only my opinion and i'm writing too many little things...



if author of book, Степанец, right, yak-9k had ammo counter, only for ns-45, and we not have this in game...
I see what you mean about the armored windscreens. I tend to end up flying the Pe-2 rather than the 109 so I hadn't considered this an issue previously

I didn't know that the Yak-9K had an ammo counter. Interesting!
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Old 12-13-2012, 01:03 PM
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oh, exactly, "polished" etc... forgot about this... and i asked because wanted to say, if mustang III have correct performance, maybe need mustang IV who intercepted V-1 too (how i read)...
If I were going to add an additional Mustang model to the game, it would be the P-51H.


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If author of book, Степанец, right, yak-9k had ammo counter, only for ns-45, and we not have this in game...
The option of having an ammo counter in "no cockpit" mode or as a HUD display would be a nice touch.

Alternately, just list how many rounds of ammo a plane has expended. Often I practice my gunnery using unlimited ammo and it would be helpful to get a sense of how much ammo I've spent to take out a particular target.
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Old 12-13-2012, 04:41 PM
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[QUOTE=Pursuivant;487773]If I were going to add an additional Mustang model to the game, it would be the P-51H.

A P-51 H would be sweet
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Old 12-13-2012, 09:35 PM
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I see what you mean about the armored windscreens. I tend to end up flying the Pe-2 rather than the 109 so I hadn't considered this an issue previously


and i remembered third reason, without armor better view forward, personally for me much better... 3 reasons...

and, maybe, if really need new option, for example, this can looks like difficulty settings...

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I didn't know that the Yak-9K had an ammo counter. Interesting!
you know, maybe, it's correct only for prototype, maybe not, but all this is not so important how fix performances of T/K and, if i'm not mistaken, view forward in cockpit of all 9s...

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If I were going to add an additional Mustang model to the game, it would be the P-51H.
if talk in total, agree with you, but if talk sensibly, in 45 was built only 555 H and they even not fought against japan and in korea, right? so, mustangs with allison have much more chances and reasons...

interesting, DT has plans about this?

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...or as a HUD display would be a nice touch.
if i'm understood you correctly, this is can be good idea, especially, if plane had ammo counter, but no photos with him...


and again about i-16, old planes and field mods... i'm not specialist, but even 10 mins of research gives lot of variants (attached), of all years, and theoretically this easy to do... for example, third photo, type 24 with 2 rs-82, and some changes (here, maybe, due to dirt) in 1943... i think, he can be slowly at 50 kph...

and you can see what in game wrong 3d model of shvak for i-16...
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Old 12-13-2012, 09:47 PM
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Although a P-51H would be interesting... it would be purely theoretical as the type never saw combat. It was introduced just after the war was over and it saw a couple of years of service before being retired.

The Mustangs that saw service in Korea were the F-51D (P-51D) and F-82 Twin Mustang.

If it was a choice of Mustangs, I'd rather have the very interesting A-36 Apache with dive brakes, and P-51A Mustang variants. I'd even be interested in seeing the Mustang Mark I and the limited production variant with 4x20mm Hispano cannons in the wings.
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Old 12-13-2012, 10:13 PM
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I vote for the Allison models as well...
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Old 12-13-2012, 11:49 PM
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Allison Mustangs for the win...

Man, to me those are the sweetest 'stangs
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