Bugs Thread

[camelotcrusade]

@BenST88 and others - About that 1hp bug. The enemies shouldbe doing more damage, right, but in the log it shows 1 damage? I'd like to list this bug but I want to make sure I understand actual vs. expected behavior and how to reproduce it. Avenging angel causes it?

@torquemada oops, sorry about Blizzard. My color tag accidentally covered more lines than it should have. It's back to green now.

@Handel yep, I have Guardian listed in the Awards section.

@I_M_Newb I didn't know about the mouse scroll workaround for the inventory so I will add it to the post. Regarding the battle obstacles that sounds like an documented change rather than a bug to me.

@Oas, to make sure I finally understand, the bug where Valhalla's messenger only updates for viking units is now fixed to work for any viking units, right? I can mark it as OK as of Patch 3?

Edit: Just tested avenging angel and I only took one damage. Added to the list. I also tested Justice but it does not crash for me. That's quite a flashy animation though, so I could understand where some people might get a graphics crash. Let me know which cards are crashing on this spell and I'll make an entry on the list. Finally, what is the Pygmy bug I've seen referenced but not explained?

[ckdamascus]

Originally Posted by camelotcrusade

@BenST88 and others - About that 1hp bug. The enemies shouldbe doing more damage, right, but in the log it shows 1 damage? I'd like to list this bug but I want to make sure I understand actual vs. expected behavior and how to reproduce it. Avenging angel causes it?

@torquemada oops, sorry about Blizzard. My color tag accidentally covered more lines than it should have. It's back to green now.

@Handel yep, I have Guardian listed in the Awards section.

@I_M_Newb I didn't know about the mouse scroll workaround for the inventory so I will add it to the post. Regarding the battle obstacles that sounds like an documented change rather than a bug to me.

@Oas, to make sure I finally understand, the bug where Valhalla's messenger only updates for viking units is now fixed to work for any viking units, right? I can mark it as OK as of Patch 3?

Edit: Just tested avenging angel and I only took one damage. Added to the list. I also tested Justice but it does not crash for me. That's quite a flashy animation though, so I could understand where some people might get a graphics crash. Let me know which cards are crashing on this spell and I'll make an entry on the list. Finally, what is the Pygmy bug I've seen referenced but not explained?

Also Oil Mist / Greasy Mist takes a LONG time to animate. You cast it, and it takes about 5 seconds before you can do somethign else.

Pygmy bug is GAME BREAKING. Normally Pygmy reduces per unit HP by 20/30/40% and it's attack etc.

In the current state, Pygmy reduce a UNIT's MAX HP to 1 hp. Yes, 1 HP.

So if I cast Pygmy on a 1000 stack of orcs, and I do 1000 dmg to it... I destroy the entire stack of 1000 orcs with one good rage skill.

This is especially dangerous when fighting against enemy skald units, but if you use skald and get lucky...

[BenSt88]

Originally Posted by camelotcrusade

@BenST88 and others - About that 1hp bug. The enemies shouldbe doing more damage, right, but in the log it shows 1 damage? I'd like to list this bug but I want to make sure I understand actual vs. expected behavior and how to reproduce it. Avenging angel causes it?

Yes, both the screen and the log window showed only 1 hp damage inflicted. And, no, I was not using the spell Avenging Angel (nor the equivalent Skald talent; which is a waste of runes btw). In a different fight than my screenshots, a stack of Devilfish did 1 hp damage in 1 round, then normal damage in their next round's attacks. If there's a pattern there, I can't figure it out.

[ckdamascus]

Possibly another bug. My archdemon scores kills, but no bursts of rage show up like it used to.

[Xargon]

Originally Posted by ckdamascus

Also Oil Mist / Greasy Mist takes a LONG time to animate. You cast it, and it takes about 5 seconds before you can do somethign else.

Pygmy bug is GAME BREAKING. Normally Pygmy reduces per unit HP by 20/30/40% and it's attack etc.

In the current state, Pygmy reduce a UNIT's MAX HP to 1 hp. Yes, 1 HP.

So if I cast Pygmy on a 1000 stack of orcs, and I do 1000 dmg to it... I destroy the entire stack of 1000 orcs with one good rage skill.

This is especially dangerous when fighting against enemy skald units, but if you use skald and get lucky...

Were these bugs introduced with one of the patches? I remember using pygmy (lvl3) a while ago on a large stack of executioners and it worked fine. And I believe greasy mist allowed me to take action almost instantly after casting it.
edit: OK, after reading some posts, I see that it is quite possible they introduced new bugs with the patches. I have not played much recently and seem to be out of date - their patching progress does not help to motivate me...

[Nirual]

Originally Posted by BenSt88

Yes, both the screen and the log window showed only 1 hp damage inflicted. And, no, I was not using the spell Avenging Angel (nor the equivalent Skald talent; which is a waste of runes btw). In a different fight than my screenshots, a stack of Devilfish did 1 hp damage in 1 round, then normal damage in their next round's attacks. If there's a pattern there, I can't figure it out.

there is a pattern with Avenging Angel (not the talent), but not with random occurances otherwise. Like my screenshot seems to imply, it does not seem to affect things like lifedrain that scale from damage done.
Another fun fact: If the Jarl's armor ability kicks in when a 1 dmg attack occurs, its even reduced to 0.

On another note, the patch seems to have fixed several titles. I was awarded Dragonslayer and Beloved of the Gods after completing Hilda and Christa's Lv5 quests, both ingame and on steam. Several others seem to have been fixed judging by steam global stats: Lord of the Giants, Heart of Flint, Black Death.

[Rork]

The game is definitely screwed up in a big way on the Freedom islands. I've already mentioned in a previous post the strange occurences involving the quests "Ay Vaz's Materpiece" and "Feasts of Spirits". More bizarre incidents occured:
- It seems every fight won on the Western island now sends me to the dungeon of Castle Sha Hong. So far this has occured on a random fight, on every pirate associated with Ay Vaz and after defeating Hagyr. The latter introduced a welcome change (yes, it's sarcasm): when starting the fight, the castle was empty, so I won, got some XP and was back at the gate; giving it a go for a second time, the battle went on as normal and then I was back to the dungeon (a place very familiar by now).
- The already mentioned Hagyr gives a quest called "Dead Men can't be Pirates". It involves the necromancer Sirius Black (I think...), located on Eastern island. Problem was that I already killed him, because I first explored Eastern Island. My mistake (although I don't ever remember being forced in the other KB games to follow a certain path while exploring), but in this particular case the quest is in the journal and can't be completed. Now I know you may kill in advance or by mistake heroes that can show up as bounty quests; no problem, those quests simply won't activate or show up as such. In this case, either make it a bounty or, if it's another type of quest, put in a dialogue option that takes into consideration the possibility that one may kill the target before meeting the quest giver.
- I had still to complete another quest, "The Wanderings of Odis Or". If completed before tackling Hagyr, there are two options with two different outcomes, like leaving the Odis inside his cave or delivering him to his wife; if completed after Hagyr, there are two options but with the same outcome, deliver Odis to the hell of matrimony. Not sure if it's by design (makes no sense, since the two quests are unrelated and, aside from the number and nature of bugs, there's nothing in common between KBWotN and Skyrim) or if it's a bug, but I thought it might be worth including here.
Saves for all this is still available, enemies less so (ran out of them during all these experiments).

Anyway, fed up with all this, I decided to ignore the pesky bugged Freedom Islands and move on to the rest of the continent. Did quite a bit of exploring and at one point decided to replenish my Elf archers, from the Titan Museum on Easter Freedom island. Imagine my surprise when upon fast traveling there, I was promptly thrown into a battle with a pirate I had so far avoided (Gonzo, labeled as invincible - btw, most enemy labels in this KB are a joke, totally misleading and plain wrong). Thrown as in instant travel, instant battle loading screen: this situation occured from then on at all times, no matter where I was traveling from or what time of the day it was, efectively shutting down the island until I could defeat Gonzo (after some leveling).

OK, moving on to Verlon Wasteland: there's a dragon castle only accessible by flight, with an assorted army of dragons, including an Ice Dragon. I'm pretty sure that it can't be killed in any way, because no matter how you deliver the killing blow, the game will instanly crash to desktop. Maybe there's a way to avoid this, but after the 20th try, I decided to just ignore it.
Save available if anyone's interested (and sorry if this bug was already mentioned somewhere else in the forum).

Verlon is also the location of Regina the Stone, one of the Valkyries. After getting her to follow me, I started a dialogue with her. Choosing the option "I wanted to ask you about something" opens up three more options, one about the Ice Giants and two other which go as follows: "I've changed my mind" and "I changed my mind". Huh? Selecting the latter works normal, you're back to the main dialogue page. However, selecting the former prompts a detailed answer about the Ice Giants, an obvious follow-up to the first question about them. Double huh?!? Really, this is no slip up or unedited typo, this is downright sloppy.

As a final note, congrats to whoever came up with the names for the Valkyries. So far, two of them, Regina the Stone and Christa the Stunning might well be porn stars, so maybe naming the main character Titus the Steel instead of Olaf the Whatever might be more appropriate - just a thought .

[Handel]

Originally Posted by Rork

As a final note, congrats to whoever came up with the names for the Valkyries. So far, two of them, Regina the Stone and Christa the Stunning might well be porn stars, so maybe naming the main character Titus the Steel instead of Olaf the Whatever might be more appropriate - just a thought .

ROFL.... They not only have names of pornstars, they do look like a pornstars (and are dressed like some would-to-be-bavarian bunnies. Obviously since Amelia is no longer on the screen the devs decided to give something else to attract the players

[ckdamascus]

Rork, did you restart the game at all? Or you are still using you original saved game from release? I'm hypothesizing some of the bugs are coming from original saved games and it is going nuts after the 3rd patch.

While I did see some issues, I don't see stuff like that and I don't even crash to desktop anymore while walking around (this used to happen on the release).

[Rork]

Originally Posted by ckdamascus

Rork, did you restart the game at all? Or you are still using you original saved game from release? I'm hypothesizing some of the bugs are coming from original saved games and it is going nuts after the 3rd patch.

While I did see some issues, I don't see stuff like that and I don't even crash to desktop anymore while walking around (this used to happen on the release).

No restart, playing with the original saves, but what I described happened before the new patch. I started to play after the second patch; the Ice Dragon crash is the only repeated and reproductible game crash I suffered. Other than that, I had very few random crashes, hard to say if it was KBs problem or a matrix glitch inside my PC.