If you have any questions re: WotN, submit them here for the devs!

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Also, they are not completely ignoring us. They have already released two bug fix patches and I'm sure there will be more.

Yes bugfixes based on fixes players posted on forum, and after being pointed out by those same players.
If you buy new car and with it come little book with suggestions how to fix problems that will happen, will you say that is good product ? And when you run into problems, you go to shop and there is no one to help you. Same thing here. You give your money for something and then realize it`s not working, crash/block and cause lots of problems. Do you suggest merchant that sold you that product should be praised if you fix your problems by communicating with other customers?

And they are also a low-budget team so it's possible they don't have resources for two-way communicating with players.

This is open forum, and it doesnt take lots of resources to communicate with each other. You can claim they dont have internet connection available, to read/reply to our posts. And who said they are low budget team ???
1c is leading software publisher for Russia and eastern Europe, i`m sure they could afford 2-3 test players to try tihs bug infested game before activating it on steam for purchase.

[Totoro]

Originally Posted by Fatt_Shade

Yes bugfixes based on fixes players posted on forum, and after being pointed out by those same players.

Doesn't that prove they are reading our posts?

If you buy new car and with it come little book with suggestions how to fix problems that will happen, will you say that is good product ? And when you run into problems, you go to shop and there is no one to help you. Same thing here. You give your money for something and then realize it`s not working, crash/block and cause lots of problems. Do you suggest merchant that sold you that product should be praised if you fix your problems by communicating with other customers?

You could ask for a refund because the product is not what they promised.
Usually if you buy a car and it's not functioning like promised, you get a refund.

Personally I don't mind waiting for bug fixes.

This is open forum, and it doesnt take lots of resources to communicate with each other. You can claim they dont have internet connection available, to read/reply to our posts.

They would have to hire a specific person to communicate with players.

And who said they are low budget team ???
1c is leading software publisher for Russia and eastern Europe, i`m sure they could afford 2-3 test players to try tihs bug infested game before activating it on steam for purchase.

1C company is also a publisher of many other games than KB like IL-2 Sturmovik which has a lot larger playerbase than KB.

And you can usually tell a game's budget just by looking at its graphics.

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Doesn't that prove they are reading our posts?

Yes they are reading posts, but it`s not players job to fix things. If i spend some gold to buy game, i expect it to work at least. Not spend my income, and then spend time to make that same product work.

You could ask for a refund because the product is not what they promised.
Usually if you buy a car and it's not functioning like promised, you get a refund.

I dont want refund i want functional product (as 995 of players).

They would have to hire a specific person to communicate with players.

You`re kidding right ? Programing studio, hiring person for their PR with player base on forum ???

1C company is also a publisher of many other games than KB like IL-2 Sturmovik which has a lot larger playerbase than KB.
And you can usually tell a game's budget just by looking at its graphics.

I know they develop other games , but does any of those have so much problems working as this?
And my claim was on testing game before releasing it, not specific on budget for graphic improvements. 2 days after release there was list at least 100 bugs in game from players. Yo cant tell me this couldnt be avoided, with simple beta test.

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@Fatt_Shade

You don't need to spend your time to fix bugs. Just do other things and they get fixed in the meantime.

They could have spend more effort on bugs before releasing the game but then the release would have been postponed.

I don't think there is much difference whether you buy the game few months earlier and wait few months for bugs to get fixed or whether you buy the game few months later and get a bugfree game.
Actually, I think the option to release a game with bugs is better because then players who don't care about them, can play anyway and those who care, can wait for them to get fixed.

It's also possible that they were aware that the game has many bugs but decided to release it anyway because players kept asking about the release.

You`re kidding right ? Programing studio, hiring person for their PR with player base on forum ???

Well, imagine you would be a developer. You get paid for developing the game, not keeping contact with players. Would you bother to visit forums to calm down players?

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@Totoro

You don't need to spend your time to fix bugs. Just do other things and they get fixed in the meantime.

Well if players didnt fix things in bugstread, i`m positively sure it wouldnt be done at all (or at least much later) considering devs interaction with players so far.

Actually, I think the option to release a game with bugs is better because then players who don't care about them, can play anyway and those who care, can wait for them to get fixed.

How can you state this? There is many posts about crashes on ice dragon bug, or in fight with Eric, or Loki later in game, and those are some battles/quests needed to continue in game, and if they are bugged and crash your game every time you kil ice drago,no or attack Loki how are you supposed to play game ignoring bugs if there is no way to continue due to that bug ?

Well, imagine you would be a developer. You get paid for developing the game, not keeping contact with players. Would you bother to visit forums to calm down players?

Well if they get paid for this kind of job then at least do it right. If not then check on player base response and see what you f...ed up in delevoping said game. And they did f..k up big time with this release.

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Well if players didnt fix things in bugstread, i`m positively sure it wouldnt be done at all (or at least much later) considering devs interaction with players so far.

I disagree, just players reporting bugs is enough I think.

How can you state this? There is many posts about crashes on ice dragon bug, or in fight with Eric, or Loki later in game, and those are some battles/quests needed to continue in game, and if they are bugged and crash your game every time you kil ice drago,no or attack Loki how are you supposed to play game ignoring bugs if there is no way to continue due to that bug ?

It's a problem indeed if you can't continue. However, some people have completed the game regardless of bugs.

Well if they get paid for this kind of job then at least do it right. If not then check on player base response and see what you f...ed up in delevoping said game. And they did f..k up big time with this release.

There has never been a game which wouldn't have bugs no matter how good the devs are. They just get fixed before the game is released which is not the case in this game.
They could have fixed them before release. But then the release would have been postponed and I think the bugs get fixed faster this way because players are actively reporting them.