Birds of Prey GC 2008 trailer

[Anton Yudintsev]

Originally Posted by IceFire

Actually it was possible to mount a MG-FF firing through the nose cone...but apparently there were problems with this installation. Not sure what those problems were. I guess the intention always was to do it that way but they couldn't quite get it sorted out properly until the Bf109F models.

Problem is it was rarely used by pilots, because of vibration.

Still...its the absolute least common variation and another type that ultimately was a failure just like the Spit Ib and Hurricane I with experimental cannon armament.

You are wrong. It is not a failure. We are not showing you historical documentary movie.
It is game. It simulates planes, which were actually exists - so it is historical correct.
We are not showing you WW2 statistics - and we do not guarantee that all planes will appear on screen same percent of time as they stastically appeared in the skies those days. It is nonsense.


And I hope this is last time I am repeating that.

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by Anton Yudintsev

Problem is it was rarely used by pilots, because of vibration.



You are wrong. It is not a failure. We are not showing you historical documentary movie.
It is game. It simulates planes, which were actually exists - so it is historical correct.
We are not showing you WW2 statistics - and we do not guarantee that all planes will appear on screen same percent of time as they stastically appeared in the skies those days. It is nonsense.


And I hope this is last time I am repeating that.

I understand perfectly what you are saying. I just disagree.

And in all honesty the Spitfire Ib and Hurricane experimental with cannons WERE indeed failures so much so that the pilots lobbied to have their old planes (with 8x.303 machine guns) returned to them. Thats pretty damning for those early cannon armed RAF fighters.

[Anton Yudintsev]

Originally Posted by IceFire

I understand perfectly what you are saying. I just disagree.

And in all honesty the Spitfire Ib and Hurricane experimental with cannons WERE indeed failures so much so that the pilots lobbied to have their old planes (with 8x.303 machine guns) returned to them. Thats pretty damning for those early cannon armed RAF fighters.

So, that's a point where we can't get to one understaning, than...
Just hope, it won't spoil game experience you. Or you can just not buy game - if it is so critical to you

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by Anton Yudintsev

So, that's a point where we can't get to one understaning, than...
Just hope, it won't spoil game experience you. Or you can just not buy game - if it is so critical to you

Yes I believe we'll have to agree to disagree on this.

When the game is finished and released I will look at it, read the reviews, and we'll see. If the gameplay and fun factor can make up for it then I will give it a fair shake.

[EAF51/155_TonyR]

I hope this was in arcade mode:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqFL7...eature=related

[VMF-214_HaVoK]

Originally Posted by EAF51/155_TonyR

I hope this was in arcade mode

Press F8 in IL2 and you get the same thing.

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[KOM.Nausicaa]

Originally Posted by EAF51/155_TonyR

I hope this was in arcade mode:

Unfortunately I that is exactly how I expect BoP to be. its an arcae game destined to dumb american teenagers, dont forget.

[Anton Yudintsev]

Originally Posted by KOM.Nausicaa

Unfortunately I that is exactly how I expect BoP to be. its an arcae game destined to dumb american teenagers, dont forget.

Video is in 'arcade' (simplified) mode.
Flight model is from original IL-2, so nothing new can be dicovered here.

[VMF-214_HaVoK]

Originally Posted by KOM.Nausicaa

Unfortunately I that is exactly how I expect BoP to be. its an arcae game destined to dumb american teenagers, dont forget.

"Video is in 'arcade' (simplified) mode.
Flight model is from original IL-2, so nothing new can be dicovered here."

Proving you do not know what you are talking about. Your speculations are without merit and the average age of the console gamer is 33 years old so I would say your teenage comment is off the mark as well. Your comment regarding "dumb American" is just plain ignorant and uncalled for and if anyone is showing any sign of being dumb I would have to it is you thus far. If you do not know what you are talking about and can not speak it in a rational unbiased way then keep it to yourself. I think you will find you will look far less foolish in the future.

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[Kirill Yudintsev]

Video made in simplified realism level - you can see this in the first seconds (screen after selecting mission)