Please start VAC online.

[Ze-Jamz]

Ive said it over at Warclouds a long long time ago and il say it here....Take away the stats and your solve a lot of issues and not just issues with Cheating...

[ElAurens]

Agree.

Also having some sort of script that would dink the points of someone who regularly bails out rather then fly all the way back to France would go a long way towards making things more realistic, and fair for those of us who don't think of virtual flying as a football match.

[Ataros]

Originally Posted by Catseye

Hmmmmm, I wonder why it seems that there is quite often a referral to Russian pilots being good and little referrals to Western pilots being good? The laws of averages do not apply like this so just possibly, just possibly, something is amiss?

No, Russians just fly better in average (and I am not one of them btw).

You will be interested to learn a story of the greatest IL-2 cheater of all times =FB=vik-s and his friend =FB=Storm They were the worst cheaters known by community for 3 years after Il-2 launched. No one of the western community doubted that they cheat. Then they came to the Lowland TigerMeet 2003 LAN European Championship in the Netherlands and won it becoming official European champions. (VikS then became a part of RoF team

and still "cheats".

)

If you have as long winters as we do here in Russia and nothing to do outside for most part of the year and no money to go to a pub or cinema you would spend as much time flying as many Russian guys do (all their off-work time basically).

If you loved WWII aviation as much as Russians do some of you would have created IL-2 series, not Oleg Maddox (most successful game studios are located in the west, but not avia-sim ones, aren't they?) For many this is not a game but life.

Use your brain to think why no one but Russian community organized this championship (2nd time already) http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=33946 (won by none-russian btw) When you win the next one, you are allowed to call them cheaters. They will take it as a compliment btw.

Show a video proof from ATAG (just fly behind and film the guys you mean) or fhut up and stop being a nazi. This stinks. If you can not shoot down 5 noobs in 5 minutes it does not mean no one can ...Here is a proof that cheaters exist for you.

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by Ataros

No, Russians just fly better in average (and I am not one of them btw).

You will be interested to learn a story of the greatest IL-2 cheater of all times =FB=vik-s and his friend =FB=Storm They were the worst cheaters known by community for 3 years after Il-2 launched. No one of the western community doubted that they cheat. Then they came to the Lowland TigerMeet 2003 LAN European Championship in the Netherlands and won it becoming official European champions.

If you have as long winters as we do here in Russia and nothing to do outside for most part of the year and no money to go to a pub or cinema you would spend as much time flying as many Russian guys do (all their off-work time basically).

If you loved WWII aviation as much as Russians do some of you would have created IL-2 series, not Oleg Maddox (most successful game studios are located in the west, but not avia-sim ones, aren't they?)

Use your brain to think why no one but Russian community organized this championship (2nd time already) http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=33946 (won by none-russian btw) When you win the next one, you are allowed to call them cheaters. They will take it as a compliment btw.

Show a video proof from ATAG (just fly behind and film the guys you mean) or fhut up and stop being a nazi. This stinks. If you can not shoot down 5 noobs in 5 minutes it does not mean no one can ...Here is a proof that cheaters exist for you.

Today for the first time I was told about MR X convergence setup and as a result got quite a few kills

Kudos to Mr X, great pilot unfortunately for blue he is now found frequenting a spit

[arthursmedley]

Originally Posted by Ze-Jamz

Ive said it over at Warclouds a long long time ago and il say it here....Take away the stats and your solve a lot of issues and not just issues with Cheating...

Couldn't agree more.

[CaptainDoggles]

lol.... there are a LOT of folks in this thread who don't know how steam works.

Ask yourselves this:

Why do games like TF2 and Counterstrike update themselves so frequently?

[IvanK]

And what exactly is Mr X convergence setup ?

[SNAFU]

Originally Posted by Ataros

No, Russians just fly better in average (and I am not one of them btw).

Ataros, give it up. In old 1946 the western and eastern communities didn´t mix up that much as now in CloD, where there are only 2 servers available. So many westerners experience the eastern-sportmanship in WWII sims the first time and are confused.

It`s human behavior. Tell a kid there is a peanut foul in his basket, and it will turn around every nut 3 times and claim every irregularity as a foul nut. Suddenly all the nuts are foul not just a single one.

I couldn´t believe it either, when I saw the first time how some guys really train - I mean really train and train hard in a computer game... but hey they do.

[Ataros]

This guy took 2nd place in the Gladiators 1vs1 championship. Can anyone beat his time?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgqQG...ature=youtu.be

The missions can be downloaded here http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?p=469016

[*Buzzsaw*]

Originally Posted by Ataros

No, Russians just fly better in average (and I am not one of them btw).

You will be interested to learn a story of the greatest IL-2 cheater of all times =FB=vik-s and his friend =FB=Storm They were the worst cheaters known by community for 3 years after Il-2 launched. No one of the western community doubted that they cheat. Then they came to the Lowland TigerMeet 2003 LAN European Championship in the Netherlands and won it becoming official European champions. (VikS then became a part of RoF team

)

If you have as long winters as we do here in Russia and nothing to do outside for most part of the year and no money to go to a pub or cinema you would spend as much time flying as many Russian guys do (all their off-work time basically).

If you loved WWII aviation as much as Russians do some of you would have created IL-2 series, not Oleg Maddox (most successful game studios are located in the west, but not avia-sim ones, aren't they?) For many this is not a game but life.

Use your brain to think why no one but Russian community organized this championship (2nd time already) http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=33946 (won by none-russian btw) When you win the next one, you are allowed to call them cheaters. They will take it as a compliment btw.

Show a video proof from ATAG (just fly behind and film the guys you mean) or fhut up and stop being a nazi. This stinks. If you can not shoot down 5 noobs in 5 minutes it does not mean no one can ...Here is a proof that cheaters exist for you.

Salute Ataros

With all due respect to Russian pilots, who undoubtably train hard to succeed, and without any implication that they are guilty of any breachs:

1) The facts are, there were hacks and hackers in the IL-2 1946 community, that was exactly the reason Oleg Maddox added the anti-cheat program to the game mid way through its production.

2) Hacks are a part of almost every competitive online game, there is no reason not to believe CoD has not been targeted.

3) There are players who have posted their own experiences observing players in CoD who deliberated loaded mods then flew with them in online servers.

Now whether or not we are seeing widespread hacking is another question. Personally I think many of the odd experiences some players are having online are more often a function of the poor modelling of the game, rather than hacking.

For example, it is clear that the game 109's have a considerable advantages in climb and speed at altitudes between approx. 12,000 and 20,000 ft, more than historical. If a player in a Spitfire finds his opponent easily zooming above him at these altitudes, that should come as no surprise. On the other hand, under 10,000 ft, players should not be observing 109's easily zooming above Spitfires as a regular occurrence. At lower altitudes, the game's 109's have no significant climb or speed advantages over the 100 octane fueled Spitfires. In my experience, a 109 pilot will have perhaps two or three opportunities to use dive and zoom attacks before he finds himself losing his e advantage. And Spitfires entering combat with equal E should have no problem in following a 109's vertical maneuvers.

On a related issue, we have had a lot of players complaining about the large number of pilot kills obtained by some German pilots. Again, this may be a function of the poor game modelling rather than hacking. It is clear pilot kills are more easily obtained when using the SmK (H) Tungsten round in the 109's 7.92mm weapons. The way this round is modelled, (ie. with seeming laser like penetration through fuselage and armour) and its non-historical unlimited availability has given Blue players who have worked hard to improve their accuracy, big advantages over Red players using British light Machine Gun ammunition.

I think it is important for everyone to consider carefully the facts, and make objective evaluations before jumping to conclusions.

It is also important that Server operators make sure they enable VAC, as well, anyone with well founded suspicions, should report those to the Steam authorities.