Beating a dead horse

[BadAim]

Should we be suprised at the conspiracy theorists? It took them over 40 years to figure out that Lee Harvey Oswald killed Kennedy. They will be arguing over BOP for years after BOB has been released.

I thought it took over 40 years to try and convince us the Lee Harvey Oswald killed Kennedy, when all the facts say he didn't. But then again i bet you believe man landed on the moon.

[SlipBall]

BOB SOW is a work in progress that can not be rushed to completion by anxious people. If it were dead, Oleg would step up and say so!...I'm sure that they are doing the very best that they can to get it to market

I dont think SOW is dead, but i have to say if it comes out in 2009 or 10 then it must hold the record for the most time taken to develop a game. We have been led to believe that Oleg and crew have been working flat out on this since 2006, if that is true then its gonna have to sell shed loads to recoup any cash.

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

I dont think SOW is dead, but i have to say if it comes out in 2009 or 10 then it must hold the record for the most time taken to develop a game. We have been led to believe that Oleg and crew have been working flat out on this since 2006, if that is true then its gonna have to sell shed loads to recoup any cash.

I have no inside info but I've followed the development of IL-2 and SOW since the beginning on all the related forums as they changed over the years. IL-2 was 7+ years in development and they weren't updating a existing sim at the same time. SOW started development around 2004 but most of the development crew were working on Pacific Fighters in 2005/6, PE-2, IL-2 1946 etc in 2007, not to mention all the free additions. They've only had a full crew working on SOW for the last year or so. If the sim comes out in 2009 or even 2010 it will be rather remarkable to have the next benchmark developed in under 6 years.

Unfortunately do to pressures of having SOW finished they had to pull the full crew into the development, so the 4.09 patch got caught in the middle. It had to happen at some point.


The developers support of the IL-2 series is unprecedented so I really can't understand people berating the developers actions.

[nearmiss]

have you given much attention the ads for birds of prey?

The name it is being sold under and promoted

IL2 Sturmovik:Birds of Prey

http://www.1cpublishing.eu/game/il-2...-prey/overview

Would you say that excludes Oleg? I would NOT think anyone, especially another developer could use IL2 Sturmovik to promote a game.

Anyone reading that name would naturally think Oleg was associated to a large degree with that product.

The name Il2 Sturmovik is unique enough and has enough clout among users it wouldn't be smart NOT to call the BOB SOW--->

IL2 Sturmovik Storms of War: Battle of Britain

Branding is what it is all about, and Oleg has a great brand name IL2 Sturmovik

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by nearmiss

have you given much attention the ads for birds of prey?

The name it is being sold under and promoted

IL2 Sturmovik:Birds of Prey

http://www.1cpublishing.eu/game/il-2...-prey/overview

Would you say that excludes Oleg? I would NOT think anyone, especially another developer could use IL2 Sturmovik to promote a game.

Anyone reading that name would naturally think Oleg was associated to a large degree with that product.

The name Il2 Sturmovik is unique enough and has enough clout among users it wouldn't be smart NOT to call the BOB SOW--->

IL2 Sturmovik Storms of War: Battle of Britain

Like I just implied in a recent post, having IL-2 Sturmovik in the title of BOP has confused alot of people. Most people are over that now. The original IL-2 was planned to only have the IL-2 Strumovik flyable, but the sim evolved many times over the years, thanks to the support of the developers. I'm sure if Oleg had a crystal ball he would have given the sim a different name.

I'm not sure the IL-2 Sturmovik name is required for product recognition or fits the discription of the future series.

[JG52Uther]

I'm bored of this forum and all the fighting that goes on.
The only ones who can say for sure what is going on is Oleg or Ilya,and they don't even bother anymore,everything else is either people arguing that SoW is dead (why bother coming here anymore if you believe that?) or people who presume to speak for Oleg or Ilya,and feel the need to repeat the same thing over and over.

[virre89]

Originally Posted by nearmiss

have you given much attention the ads for birds of prey?

The name it is being sold under and promoted

IL2 Sturmovik:Birds of Prey

http://www.1cpublishing.eu/game/il-2...-prey/overview

Would you say that excludes Oleg? I would NOT think anyone, especially another developer could use IL2 Sturmovik to promote a game.

Anyone reading that name would naturally think Oleg was associated to a large degree with that product.

The name Il2 Sturmovik is unique enough and has enough clout among users it wouldn't be smart NOT to call the BOB SOW--->

IL2 Sturmovik Storms of War: Battle of Britain

Branding is what it is all about, and Oleg has a great brand name IL2 Sturmovik

Look dude,

I don't know were you're going with your posts but im sick of them.
You've been given enough evidence that IL2-POB has nothing to do with BOB:SOW, now either you just accept it or simply get lost.. since you don't even seem to trust the developers.

Besides, the IL2 Birds of Prey version is a great move for 1C to get more involved in the console business. Myself and probably everyone on this forum is a hardcore PC gamer but it's a great move and today the console market is neccessary for any developer/publisher.

Even the almighty pc developer ID SOFTWARE and their Code guru John Carmack stated that they've to create console games now to keep up with the market, nonetheless he was sure to point out that "they would still be making PC games even if it wouldn't sell the same , simply because it was the right thing to do" (make PC games).

SoW will be great, it's all flight fans and ww2 worshiper's wet dream an all new engine , new features , sounds in other words another benchmark Sim / Engine.

I think people should admire them for making this a pure PC game since it's not easy today and then accept BOP as an entry to the console market.

People should be glad we don't get a BOP port to the PC, but instead a full featured hardcore flightsim developed by the IL2 team for the >>>>PC<<<<.

[proton45]

I wonder if the similarity of the screen shots from "IL2 BOP" and "SoW BoB" is do to some kind of Ubi photoshop publicity processing? If you compare the "BoP" video clip with the "IL2 1946" DVD video clip of "SoW BoB" they don't really appear that similar...