Pilot kill after pilot kill. How do they do it??

[Torian]

How can u tell if VAC is on or not now ?

[TUSA/TX-Gunslinger]

Do any of these pilots carry the tag =FB=?

I fly RoF and CoD. There are quite a few Russian pilots (and a few Germans) that are that good. In both sims, although not sure if they'd take the time to fool around on an American server.

They don't cheat. They train exceptionally hard, only take in a very tiny percentage of squad applicants and spend a lot of time flying (versus posting, testing, tweaking, making movies, skins or anything else).

There are Americans this good too - most have not shown back up from Il2.

Take a look at this - http://riseofflight.com/en/community...rd/Multiplayer

Look at the top 15. Then look for the guys with the best K to D.

=FB= Vaal 3.57: 1 - 576 hours flight time
=FB= Viks 3.84: 1 - 323 hours
kim 5.12:1 - 191 hours
(Winger is up there too )

Now think about how much you fly. How many Americans have 300 to 500 hours online time?

The Russians have always dominated these type of Combat Flight Sims. This is a sport to them. They take it very very seriously and they are the toughest adversaries you will face (this thread is a good example of their skill).

They have their weaknesses, but it's not 2 v 2 skills. They are the very best in the world at 2 v 2 - Air to Air.

[SlipBall]

^^ agree...it is amazing how good some pilots are on-line

[phoenix1963]

I'm sure there are plenty of vulnerabilities in CloD, an obvious one is unencrypted packets.
But the most likely answer is there are many other games with a far bigger fan base and the small minority of gamers who get a thrill from cheating day-after-day and investing effort to crack a game will be on those, not CloD.

56RAF_phoenix

[Flanker35M]

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Some Russian squads and pilots are exceptionally good ones, like Flying Barans with VikS and all. I would regard FB as the best one, at least in original IL-2. ROSS was medicore, they were caught outright cheating in IL-2 online wars. Some their pilots were OK. Mr.X seemed to have good SA and shoots very well. Add to this the all-AP belting and PKs do happen and a lot.

About cheating. The best cheater is not the most easily seen one. That individual changes only something that gives and edge, but not too much so it can be so easily spotted. Most of it can be put to lag or similar if well done and no-one would suspect cheating. There has always been and always will be cheating and I do not expect CoD to be any different due it's easy to manipulate file structure.

Online flying is hard and requires a lot of training. Unfortunately have no time or much passion to do that these days so merely a target drone But for a strictly offline player online is hell unless has natural talent.

[slm]

Originally Posted by Flanker35M

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Online flying is hard and requires a lot of training. Unfortunately have no time or much passion to do that these days so merely a target drone But for a strictly offline player online is hell unless has natural talent.

When flying OFFLINE you get used to flying with target drones.

[*Buzzsaw*]

Originally Posted by TUSA/TX-Gunslinger

Do any of these pilots carry the tag =FB=?

AFAIK FB_Viks was one of the original developers for RISE OF FLIGHT, later bought out by 777 Group. I believe many members of FB were on Beta teams.

He also knows the IL-2 code very well, his group originally had a deal with 1C Maddox to purchase a revised version of the code in the predecessor to RISE OF FLIGHT, but the developers changed their mind after much experimentation with the IL-2 code, the Sim was renamed RoF, and published with an in-house original code.

[AbortedMan]

Torian I wholly agree with you on this subject. I've never been one to call "cheat" in online games, as I know for sure people are better than me at many games...but when the evidence presents itself in such a way, it's hard not to wonder.

To anyone that is speaking in absolution about no one cheating, don't kid yourself. It is entirely, completely, and utterly probable that there are cheaters out there playing CloD...it's a piece of software just like any other and VAC is not the end-all cheat prevention. With 1C's apparent limited resources in regards to coding this game, I doubt there was any attention paid to cheat prevention other than the obvious and "along-the-way" sort of fixes.

Like I said, I'm not one to ever accuse of cheats/hacks, unless its painfully obvious (as seen in some Battlefield 3 games) but my vote is that this group is up to something...and it's evident by noting what gets damaged on your aircraft before you are PK'd. There have been several occasions where nothing, and I mean NOTHING gets hit on my aircraft except my pilot from a shot that was ~200m-500m away. No damage, no hitsound, no systems failure messages, decals, tracers, just black screen. To believe that someone can repeatedly pull a pilot killing sniper shot off on a REGULAR basis from a moving aircraft at range is questionable to say the least.

And please take into account there are multiple people saying this. Torian and I are not the only ones noting something fishy, obviously.

I agree there are good pilots/players out there, but this is extremely suspect.

[*Buzzsaw*]

Originally Posted by AbortedMan

Torian I wholly agree with you on this subject. I've never been one to call "cheat" in online games, as I know for sure people are better than me at many games...but when the evidence presents itself in such a way, it's hard not to wonder.

To anyone that is speaking in absolution about no one cheating, don't kid yourself. It is entirely, completely, and utterly probable that there are cheaters out there playing CloD...it's a piece of software just like any other and VAC is not the end-all cheat prevention. With 1C's apparent limited resources in regards to coding this game, I doubt there was any attention paid to cheat prevention other than the obvious and "along-the-way" sort of fixes.

Like I said, I'm not one to ever accuse of cheats/hacks, unless its painfully obvious (as seen in some Battlefield 3 games) but my vote is that this group is up to something...and it's evident by noting what gets damaged on your aircraft before you are PK'd. There have been several occasions where nothing, and I mean NOTHING gets hit on my aircraft except my pilot from a shot that was ~200m-500m away. No damage, no hitsound, no systems failure messages, decals, tracers, just black screen. To believe that someone can repeatedly pull a pilot killing sniper shot off on a REGULAR basis from a moving aircraft at range is questionable to say the least.

And please take into account there are multiple people saying this. Torian and I are not the only ones noting something fishy, obviously.

I agree there are good pilots/players out there, but this is extremely suspect.

I would suggest you provide proof in the form of videos and screenshots.

Otherwise it is just speculation.

[AbortedMan]

Unfortunately, I do not have proof, and this is speculation.

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...

As I'm not in the position to take action against said pilots, my producing proof is irrelevant, and a moot point. I'm stating what I believe is true and that the OP is not alone in this matter.