4.11.1 is a Joke?

[JtD]

The 109F-4 has not been changed in the recent patches, the I-16 now does has a chance to fall apart instead of exploding, and that's the only change with the I-16.

[jeroll3d]

Originally Posted by JtD

The 109F-4 has not been changed in the recent patches, the I-16 now does has a chance to fall apart instead of exploding, and that's the only change with the I-16.

In relation whit 4.0.9?

[FC99]

Originally Posted by jeroll3d

In relation whit 4.0.9?

Bf109F4 is same in 4.11 and in 4.09

[MaxGunz]

I get my best climb rates at just a bit over stall regardless of plane. If I am followed by another plane with higher stall speed or less power it can never follow. This relation will often vary with height... sometimes just get worse.

Some just think. Some bitch then think. And some just bitch, bitch, bitch.

[Woke Up Dead]

Originally Posted by MaxGunz

I get my best climb rates at just a bit over stall regardless of plane.

That's interesting, how much over is "just a bit over?" Not questioning, just curious. I always thought the "best climb speed" from IL2 Compare was the way to go, that speed is usually about 100km/h (60mph) faster than stall speed for each plane. Did you test this?

[MaxGunz]

You're right, I was thinking steepest climb not best climb rate!

109G stall around 155kph, best climb around 270.
Just saying, trying to follow some planes it will look like they're levitating.

I can climb 'to heaven' at near stall, rudder dancing all the way, in these planes but just 20-30 kph faster I can climb at a much higher rate very steeply.

But hey, in combat you mostly don't want to be so slow. Flying like that, the same plane that can't follow you in a steady climb should be able to zoom up your six so fast he has to quit firing and veer off to avoid collision. But then, the other guy has to think of that and make it happen first.

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by jeroll3d

In relation whit 4.0.9?

You're experiencing what they call the "placebo effect". It's really quite fascinating.