Let's Put Cliffs of Dover in Context.

[BadAim]

Originally Posted by Feathered_IV

Nazis are the benchmark of evil. Like it or not. They are the yardstick by which every other thing is measured.

I find that amusing, while quite true. It's amazing that the same is not true for communists, who have killed far more people than the Nazi's ever dreamed of. (though I might have to concede that the Nazis were more efficient)

I guess it's because neo-intellectuals can still come up with drivel in their defense, while the Nazi drivel is obvious even to the sheep.

[Feathered_IV]

Originally Posted by BadAim

I find that amusing, while quite true.

Thanks. That was the angle I was going for.

[zander]

Originally Posted by Hood

I doubt a ban will follow.

You do?
You don't?
You wish
For what?

[ElAurens]

Love or hate Sir Winston, he was the only leader in Europe to properly understand the threat posed by Nazi Germany, and the only leader that could have held The Empire together as the rest of Europe fell. His understanding of the Ameican people and our political system also helped before and after we came in to the war in December of 1941.

Neville Chamberlain simply would have capitulated after the fall of France.

Those of you, who by your posts, seem to think you would have been better off under the successors to either Hitler or Stalin are either incredibly naieve or insane, I've not quite figured out which yet.

[bongodriver]

I'd say insanely naive...

[zander]

So we're only talking about western europe then?
What about the east, let's just ignore it?
They were left to choose between the devil and the deep blue sea - well, actually they never had a choice but, anyway.
On the other hand I absolutely do understand your pride you successfully defended your country from an invader - all very fine.
Just don't sell it like you saved the whole planet, thx.

Btw, back in the 90's, when the EU was getting stronger, my old man used to say:
"See, it looks like the Krauts are going to win the war after all".

[MB_Avro_UK]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

Love or hate Sir Winston, he was the only leader in Europe to properly understand the threat posed by Nazi Germany, and the only leader that could have held The Empire together as the rest of Europe fell. His understanding of the Ameican people and our political system also helped before and after we came in to the war in December of 1941.

Neville Chamberlain simply would have capitulated after the fall of France.

Those of you, who by your posts, seem to think you would have been better off under the successors to either Hitler or Stalin are either incredibly naieve or insane, I've not quite figured out which yet.

Good post. He was a man of his time.

And Churchill by my DNA calculations was half American.

[ElAurens]

Indeed he was sir.

[Tiger27]

Originally Posted by Viking

First, as is obvious in this speech, Winston consumed at least a bottle of whiskey per day in his entire adult life. The man was never sober. And secondly he never fought for freedom and liberty of mankind in the world, he fought for the British Crown and the tyranny of its dominions. After the war they had to fight to free themselves from the Britt's at a great cost in human life's.
Viking

Rubbish!

[Tiger27]

Originally Posted by BadAim

Legend has it that when Abraham Lincoln was told that Grant drank a bottle of whiskey every night, he replied "Then find out what brand he drinks and send a case to every one of my generals"

Who gives a crap if Churchill drank to much? He was the right man in the right place at the right time. The communists here like to use the same tactics of bringing up useless and irrelevant points to cloud the issue at hand. Shall we start on the private life of your buddy uncle Joe?

Now please stop quoting Viking everyone, so that I'm never again subject to his drivel. I wish there was a way to make the quotes disappear with the ignore button too.

As for Avro: It kinda is just a game for many, just sayin'

I'll go back in my hole now.

Sorry, just did the same and you are right that drivel doesn't deserve quoting.

Viking what history are you following as I would say you need to buy a different book.