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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 10-02-2012, 07:17 PM
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http://youtu.be/VieBwGpZbcc

The real Su-26 is an UFO, so, i really don't know if the rudder is right in CloD FM model...
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Old 10-02-2012, 07:41 PM
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For Christ's sake don't get them to divert resources fixing an aircraft that shouldn't even be in a WW2 sim?!

It's a fun plane with lasers!

Please at-least ask them to fix the 'real' stuff first!

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Old 10-02-2012, 07:45 PM
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For Christ's sake don't get them to divert resources fixing an aircraft that shouldn't even be in a WW2 sim?!

It's a fun plane with lasers!

Please at-least ask them to fix the 'real' stuff first!

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I'm having a lot of fun with this aircraft...

Now i want a Hind, and with lasers too, more fun!!!
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Old 10-02-2012, 08:05 PM
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Nobody is asking anybody to fix anything the aircraft is LOADS of fun to play with right now and i would not want it any other way.
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Old 10-02-2012, 08:25 PM
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Nobody is asking anybody to fix anything the aircraft is LOADS of fun to play with right now and i would not want it any other way.
If this plane is in the game to intend to campare de FM with real data. Then is very important to know if the real plane can do it, and if not then fix its FM.
Hope you understeand me, sorry about my poor english.
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Old 10-02-2012, 08:47 PM
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If this plane is in the game to intend to campare de FM with real data. Then is very important to know if the real plane can do it, and if not then fix its FM.
Hope you understeand me, sorry about my poor english.
I understand and agree!
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Old 10-02-2012, 09:49 PM
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Wait a minute this is very easy to explain. You see in soviet russia we already have this technology. It's called rudder vectoring.

Heh I was messing around with this last night and was doing the same thing. I wish I could do that in the fighter. That would be awesome!
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Old 10-02-2012, 09:01 PM
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it's not a major bug, check 1:08



aerobatic routines are made by exasperated manoeuvres normally, but you can easily get a controlled spin going with a high performance aerobatic aeroplane. I can't tell from the video whether you had any throttle in, but if you did then it's quite plausible cos you're keeping the rudder in a strong slipstream, if not then yes, that's a bit of a bug. The sink rate is probably a bit too generous (the stall speed for these beasties is around 57kts), but bear in mind that you have quite a generous symmetrical profile wing surface and control surfaces and rudders in particular are VERY efficient in this family of aerobatic aircraft. The Su-26 can really hang from the propeller and hover there, so yes, extreme aerobatics are achievable.

I haven't tried the new plane yet, but I'd be more concerned about stuff torque effects and gyroscopic precession. Do you have any of that?
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Old 10-02-2012, 09:22 PM
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From 1:30 the Su-26 is hanging by the prop:



The Su-26 is a crazy plane, and even though it looks a bit wrong in the original poster's vid I think that when you reach these extremes of flight any sim is struggling to completely faithfully model the reality of flight "at the edge of the envelope". It would take a Cray supercomputer (probably churning through data for a night and not rendering in real-time) to totally correctly model the ultra-chaotic Mandelbrot world of aerodynamics...
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Old 10-02-2012, 09:23 PM
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This is why ntil now they didnt release Su26. It is unserious FM.
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