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Old 09-27-2012, 11:25 PM
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Sorry Chivas, this just won't do.

Luthier made a statement that he would do something. No-one here forced him into that obligation or choice. I have supported them many times in the past.

I refuse to have such bullshit behaviour swept under the carpet because honestly acknowledging it may endanger the future of the game. If so it is their fault
I would agree with you if I thought they had the answers, but I'm not so sure they do. I think the development is on the tipping point and its about to go one way or the other. The answers will be very different depending on which way it falls.
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Old 09-27-2012, 11:57 PM
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I would agree with you if I thought they had the answers, but I'm not so sure they do. I think the development is on the tipping point and its about to go one way or the other. The answers will be very different depending on which way it falls.

So then why say "i will be back to anwser your questions later"?
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Old 09-28-2012, 12:32 AM
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So then why say "i will be back to anwser your questions later"?
Tomorrow never comes as it is then today.

What does Luthier actually do in the office?
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Old 09-28-2012, 01:37 AM
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What does Luthier actually do in the office?
Luthier once described it as, running around with his hair on fire.
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Old 09-28-2012, 01:51 AM
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Luthier once described it as, running around with his hair on fire.
Must be an inferno by now.
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Old 09-28-2012, 02:43 AM
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So then why say "i will be back to anwser your questions later"?
Oh I don't know take a guess....maybe his lead programmer came in, and said there has been a major setback in the stability patch, maybe their investors want to pull the pin, and he has to go and talk them into holding on, maybe he just likes p#ssing some of his customers off, so they won't buy the sequel. There are a hundred possible higher priorities than massaging the feelings of a few people in the forums who immediately take everything he says as a "Promise". I'm sure he couldn't post quick enough if something positive has happened. Until then we will have to wait.
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Old 09-28-2012, 04:40 AM
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Oh I don't know take a guess....maybe his lead programmer came in, and said there has been a major setback in the stability patch, maybe their investors want to pull the pin, and he has to go and talk them into holding on, maybe he just likes p#ssing some of his customers off, so they won't buy the sequel. There are a hundred possible higher priorities than massaging the feelings of a few people in the forums who immediately take everything he says as a "Promise". I'm sure he couldn't post quick enough if something positive has happened. Until then we will have to wait.
Well, as an avid retail purchase IL2 supporter from the start it took 5 years of "development" after the last iteration of IL2 for CLoD to finally see the light of day, that upon release, was so flawed it crashed and burned on takeoff.

More than another year has now passed with even the last official patch of two more than a year old and now the developers tell the community all effort has been directed at a sequel in tandem with acknowledging CLoD is "not what we wanted it to be" BUT that there will only be one last patch for it.

Bottom line, the community faithful have waited more than 6 years for an admittedly too flawed game to fix only to be told the developers have moved on to a sequel to hopefully get a return on what financial resources they have left to produce it.

At my age I may not be here after another 6 to 7 year wait for a no-doubt multi-patched sequel that ultimately will, maybe, hopefully, be everything CloD isn't......

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As one of the original 'true believers' in this game it has taken a long time for me to feel so disillusioned, angry and let down. The reasons for this are completely due to the actions of Luthier and the devs. Repeated faith, belief and patience has been proved to be misplaced - solely by their actions and their actions alone. Many of the people who I now find myself categorised with as a 'whinger' or malcontent are people I have argued with or dismissed in the past. That their opinions have been proved right over time is not at all the outcome I would have preferred, but my eyes are open enough to see that that is the case and I am honest enough to admit it.
Excellent post. A pity more people don't have the balls.
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Oh I don't know take a guess....maybe his lead programmer came in, and said there has been a major setback in the stability patch, maybe their investors want to pull the pin, and he has to go and talk them into holding on, maybe he just likes p#ssing some of his customers off, so they won't buy the sequel. There are a hundred possible higher priorities than massaging the feelings of a few people in the forums who immediately take everything he says as a "Promise". I'm sure he couldn't post quick enough if something positive has happened. Until then we will have to wait.
Chivas, check this out:

"I apologize for not being able to come back and answer your questions, we are really at a crucial point in the patch that requires my full attention"

You know how long it took me to write that? 20 seconds. I don't care how busy you are, you can take 20 seconds out of your day to write something similar to at least give the illusion that your customers matter a tiny bit.

Very few things in life piss me off more than someone telling me they are going to be somewhere or do something, and then have them "flake" by not showing up or bothering to call and let you know. It's a major slap in the face.
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Chivas, check this out:

"I apologize for not being able to come back and answer your questions, we are really at a crucial point in the patch that requires my full attention"

You know how long it took me to write that? 20 seconds. I don't care how busy you are, you can take 20 seconds out of your day to write something similar to at least give the illusion that your customers matter a tiny bit.

Very few things in life piss me off more than someone telling me they are going to be somewhere or do something, and then have them "flake" by not showing up or bothering to call and let you know. It's a major slap in the face.
I know everything is so easy, I can't understand why there would be a problem, but there obviously is a problem. Maybe its a problem they'd just as soon not talk about. I suppose they could lie, as they're constantly accused of that anyway. I'm quite sure there are reasonable explanations for their actions, as the conspiracy theories around here make no sense, nor is it a case of them just not liking us enough to call.
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