Is it possible to fly the Bf-110 with 1 engine?

[SlipBall]

This is a bit different, but I remember either Oleg showing us, or maybe it was a training mission in the other game. He-111 successful landing with one engine.

[KG26_Alpha]

Originally Posted by SlipBall

This is a bit different, but I remember either Oleg showing us, or maybe it was a training mission in the other game. He-111 successful landing with one engine.

With one engine (depending on damage type) I can fly the He111 and land it perfectly well, its a different beast from the Bf110.








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[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha

With one engine (depending on damage type) I can fly the He111 and land it perfectly well, its a different beast from the Bf110.

Very nice, and rewarding!... I have a fond memory in the other game spits vs 109 server. Was attacked and lost a engine He-111, huge trailing black smoke all the way back to LaHave. The landing was not the success

[Jam66es]

I would imagine thier training was to put it down asap.

[Crumpp]

NzTyphoon says:

it doesn't matter whether it was an emergency procedure or not

Sure it does...

Jam66esI would imagine thier training was to put it down asap.

Exactly. It is only common sense.

[NZtyphoon]

Originally Posted by Crumpp

Sure it does...



Exactly. It is only common sense.

Here we go again - read the original question Crumpp! - Was it possible to fly the Bf 110 on 1 engine? It did not require a long-winded technical explanation, nor did it ask about emergency procedures: In the context of the question asked it did not matter whether flying on one engine was an emergency procedure. Have you got it now?

[Crumpp]

EMERGENCY OPERATING INSTRUCTIONS

http://www.winthrop.dk/p38op11.html

Like most twins, losing an engine means a ~75% reduction in performance.

Typically, the P-38 cannot hold altitude with gear and flaps extended. The single engine does produce enough excess thrust to overcome the drag.

It is already been show the Bf-110 can operate on a single engine with typical degraded performance.

At rated power, 44" Hg. 2,600 rpm, the airplane will barely hold altitude with landing gear extended and flaps up.

With landing gear extended the airplane will not hold altitude at any flap extension.

http://www.winthrop.dk/p38op12.html

Here is Jeff Ethel's NTSB report. He died making a single engine approach in a P-38.

http://www.winthrop.dk/ethel1.html

Bob Hoover had a really nice aerobatic routine in a far less capable twin.

Good energy management of your degraded performance is the key to successful single engine operation in a twin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7R7j...eature=related

[NZtyphoon]

Originally Posted by Crumpp

http://www.winthrop.dk/p38op11.html

Like most twins, losing an engine means a ~75% reduction in performance.

Typically, the P-38 cannot hold altitude with gear and flaps extended. The single engine does produce enough excess thrust to overcome the drag.

It is already been show the Bf-110 can operate on a single engine with typical degraded performance.






http://www.winthrop.dk/p38op12.html

Here is Jeff Ethel's NTSB report. He died making a single engine approach in a P-38.

http://www.winthrop.dk/ethel1.html

Bob Hoover had a really nice aerobatic routine in a far less capable twin.

Good energy management of your degraded performance is the key to successful single engine operation in a twin.

So what is all this palaver meant to prove Crumpp? We get that you consider yourself to be THE No 1 authority on aeronautics, but why persist with a complete dissertation about flying on one engine when the original question simply asked whether it was possible to fly the Messerschmitt Bf 110 on one engine?

Simple answer - yes it was possible. Yes, it could be considered to be an emergency operation, particularly when there were hostile fighters poking around and no, we didn't need Crumpp's lengthy analysis to say it.

[kohmelo]

So in Cod if one engine is shot off from Bf-110 you should immediately turn it off and feather or coarsen, if unable to feather, the pitch as much as possible? Close all rad on that engine and push other engine to its limit 2400-2600 Rpm?

I might be doing something wrong because every time I push Bf-110 near 2400 rpm i'll burn my engine(s) up.

And little offtopic:

Do I remember wrong that there were a prototype Bf-110 with Counter-rotating propellers? I have some vague memory of reading about problems with weight distribution which cancelled the positive effect of Counter-rotating propellers.

[NZtyphoon]

Originally Posted by kohmelo

So in Cod if one engine is shot off from Bf-110 you should immediately turn it off and feather or coarsen, if unable to feather, the pitch as much as possible? Close all rad on that engine and push other engine to its limit 2400-2600 Rpm?

I might be doing something wrong because every time I push Bf-110 near 2400 rpm i'll burn my engine(s) up.

And little offtopic:

Do I remember wrong that there were a prototype Bf-110 with Counter-rotating propellers? I have some vague memory of reading about problems with weight distribution which cancelled the positive effect of Counter-rotating propellers.

Yep feather, close rads and only use 2,400 rpm and above on your good engine if you're losing altitude too quickly - you might have to adjust (coarsen) your pitch on your good engine to keep the revs down.