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Old 07-25-2008, 03:04 PM
Boandlgramer Boandlgramer is offline
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Dear Trollburg

I am "Mister'" Schmid.
I see no reason for your reaction .

When I got emails where people asked me about our stick , if it is a replica, I always answering : """""""""""""No it´s not.
If you want a Replica go for the Tarmac Aces Stick. According to their homepage, they produce 100 % Replicas."""""""""""""""""""".


I don´t want to have a word-fight with someone here, I am too friendly for that.

I like our stick and our cockpits as well. They are not too expensive.

However. Even after your arrogant comments, I wish you a great success with your products.

Boandl
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Old 07-25-2008, 03:09 PM
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....and about Halleffect sensors.
Even OUR "Steuerknüppel" is available with halleffect sensors.
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Old 07-25-2008, 06:49 PM
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Mister Schmid ,
I never wanted to be arrogant . I just wanted to tick off the differences between the Tarmac Aces KG13 and yours , to avoid confusion . I apologize if I hurted you .

@Eckhart :
Our parallelogram rudder will be available at mid-august , with optional pedals :Luftwaffe , RAF , or Jaguar .
The "spade grip" (the grip which equipped Hurricanes , Spitfires, Tempest , Typhoon , early Meteors , and early Vampires) will obviously fit on the Universal Base , but it will also fit on the new shifted axis Base.
We're working on a Force Feedback module which could be fitted under the Universal Base , but there's a lot of work until we can carry it out ....

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Old 07-25-2008, 06:54 PM
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Trollbug

Are your nice ruderpedals also Original ?
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Old 07-25-2008, 10:14 PM
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He he he.... pistols at dawn Gentlemen you can not let this insult pass you by
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Old 07-26-2008, 12:45 AM
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Great! now we have both protagonists on this thread! I think it is important for us to get all the facts.

First of all, a triple huzzah for you guys making us dream with these great achievements!

Man we would all luv to fly in one of your cockpits... that's the stuff dreams are made of!!!!

And Oleg don't forget about this !: You made a flightsim which was at one point the benchmark for computer performance! Keep your new work open for this kind of possibility. Who knows? In a few years, we might be able to have this kind of stuff on a more widespread base..... Listen some years ago a few megabytes was the ultimate dream for computers and now...

So back to our thread:

Mister Schmid: all my admiration goes to your work and i would like you to expose more of the details regarding your projects! Can you give us more details about your fighterstick? How does it compare in your opinion to the Tarmac model?
What about this absolutely stunning cockpit? Is there a motion platform included? What kind of videoprojector do you use? Do you think that this setting would be appropriate with Il2? And the painful question, what would be the price range for this cockpit?

Trollbug: I am sorry if I made you walk on thin ice but I can feel how passionate you are about your project...
Are those future projects modular, I mean do they apply to the already existing universal base? It would be a pity to shell out a lot of money just to learn that there is some new better stuff in a few months which is not compatible with your equipment.


To finish: PEOPLE OF THE IL2 DREAMLAND! A triple huzzah to these fine people who are making the stuff our dreams are made of...

HIP HIP...

HIP HIP...

HIP HIP...


Cheers,

Eckhart
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Old 07-26-2008, 07:51 AM
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You would be surprised to see where active WWII aviation parts can be found today ...
One of the Tarmac Aces Team members , Laurent , is a retired Jaguar pilot of the French Air Force .
He is also one of the founders and active members of a non-profit organization which goal is to restore and make fly a MD312 "Flamant" , the first plane carried out by Marcel Dassault Industries (under this name , of course) . (this plane use Argus engines , as the FW189)
This plane fly since last year ... ) (the starting of the V12 engines is very impressive ! )

Non-profit-organizations which restore planes have generally very good connections each others . Another one is restoring a 1920's french plane (a Morane ) , and , as they could not find original rudder pedals for this plane , they fit FW190 pedals on their rudder (I don't know where they found the pedals , but they're original)....
That's it !

@Eckhart :
Of course , this module will fit on the existing Universal base !

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Old 07-27-2008, 04:15 AM
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I am "Mister'" Schmid.
Boandl
thx for visiting this forum i think your cockpit looks very good !

i have 2 questions for you, if you have a moment.

have you considered using a generic cockpit structure for your sim pit where you can fit different cockpit strut shapes on top to represent the forward view in a 109, spitfire, p51 etc.. ? right now the visibility from the cockpit is always for a 190.

that way the main instruments of the cockpit itself would stay the same and have a generic layout, and no different hardware or wiring is needed, but for people flying ww2 sims they are then not restricted to a "one model cockpit", since the visibility from the cockpit and the shape/size of struts is so different in various ww2 warbirds. purchasers could then initially buy the cockpit in one configuration, and later buy at a minimal cost a "cockpit canopy" for a different ww2 warbird (that would simply be the cockpit struts seen on the forward view, maybe with the shaped surface that represents the top of the instrument pannel)

secondly, what type of projector and screen are you using for your setup ? right now it looks like a standard flat projector screen is placed in front of the cockpit, and it is placed a fair distance from the viewer, this then gives a fairly narrow forward view (30 or 40 degrees ?). have you considered using a curved projection surface to improve peripheral vision, and placing the screen closer to the cockpit ? (placing the screen closer to the viewer increases resolution and detail, and requires a less large screen because it occupies a relatively large part of the viewers vision)

there are several companies that now sell curved projection screens for smaller home theater setups, one of those in the smaller sizes they make them in would be perfect with your cockpit ! combined with one projector it can display video on a curved screen that represents about 120 degrees of visual field, the increased peripheral vision in a flightsim really improves the immersion factor !

this gives an idea of those curved screens,
an italian company that makes many sizes in curved screens (and different degrees of screen curve) http://www.smxscreen.com/pro-curve-p...or-screen.html
with many size options http://www.smxscreen.com/pro-curve-p...en-sizing.html

another company making some curved screens (solid projection surface i think)
http://www.videoscreens.net/curved%20screens.htm
(their website is not well designed, poor illustrations)
Model 3000...80 Inch Diagonal (2 meter diagonal)
Model 6900...120 Inch Diagonal (3 meter diagonal)
demo vid clip: http://www.floridamusicco.com/videos...arge-H.264.mov

another new curved monitor that might be worth integrating with a cockpit, but the fact the viewer needs to sit close to it might be a problem in interfering with the physical size and shape of your cockpit..... the rear projection alienware display (but is "only" equivalent to 2x 24' displays joined together, and requires special resolutions). at least it gives people a taste of curved screen gaming to improve peripheral vision !

http://uk.gizmodo.com/2008/01/10/ces...utrageous.html

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Old 07-27-2008, 07:34 AM
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Hello Windturbin,

i have Mr. Schmidts Flightstick with "Poti" in Test!
The Flightstick is one of the first (ten) Sticks from the Series!
I became the Stick to Test from Mr. Schmidt himself, not from SimWare!

I dont no, what "Release" the KG 13 Flightsticks (including Software) from SimWare are?

I can say, the Flightstick have a very realistic "handling". The Mechanic are very solid.
As "old" Hotas Cougar User have the Stick to few Buttons for me ... but's realistic

Regards Bibi
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Old 08-05-2008, 07:16 AM
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First off, I would like to thank both Mr.Schmid and Tarmac Aces for their contribution to the WWII sim genre.

From pictures and video files alone, I am very impressed with both products.

I stumbled upon this thread after building my own base for a flight stick. I was always sick of the tiny movements of most plastic joysticks, and decided to manufacture a "full-throw" stick using hall sensors instead of pots.

After completing this, I starting looking for a nice grip to top off my creation and found this nice little thread!

I am very impressed gentlemen. I have been thinking about how to manufacture something similar for myself. After looking at both of your products, I have decided to start saving my pennies...
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