Kurfürst - Bf 109 Performance Resource site UPDATEs

[Al Schlageter]

Originally Posted by ICDP

Kurfurst is a great source for material for the 109 and Spitfireperformance is a great source period. The problem is that both sources are provided by blatantly biased people. The best course of action is to find many sources and come to your own conclussions. Be carefull reading books that don't show the original source, they tend to guote the same source (usually a wrong one). For example the Bf109G6 in clean condition should reach about 400mph but is very often shown as having a top speed of 386mph.

From my experience over the years on various sites Buzzsaw is blatantly biased (think Red Kurfurst). He is one of those people who makes ridiculous claims that in genreal Allied AC in IL2 are porked and Axis AC are overmodelled (see above for evidence of this). Remember to filter out the massive bias some people have on these forums and you can use their sources with other sources to make an informed opinion.

In short, read many different sources to eliminate natural bias. Learn to recognise bias (not everone is as blatant as Kurfurst or Buzzsaw). Pilot accounts are a great read but tell next to nothing about relative performance because most variables are left out.

Good post ICDP except I would say the Hungarian is the one who is the more biased. This from the various threads I have read in which he and Mike Williams have participated in. In every thread Mike Williams has always been polite and cordial unlike the other participant.

Now Kurfurst has already many translated documents on his site. He has a translated version of the document and the original document so why can't he refine the translated document and include it on his site? Kurfurst has no reason not to include the document, even if still in German, except for the fact it does not show the 109 'in a good light'.

As to what is in Baubeschreibung für das Flugzeugmuster Messerschmitt Me 109 mit Daimler-Benz-Motor DB 601, there is some discrepancy with L.Dv. 556/3. (ie 460kph @ 0km)

Unfortunately, if one questions 'the party line' on his forum one is PNGed, leaving one no recourse than to do so on other boards.