Friday the 14th Development Update

[naz]

Originally Posted by luthier

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The general plan is, after the milestone is submitted and accepted, we return to the now almost-final patch, cram as much as we can into it, and make it our final Cliffs of Dover patch. The next time it will be updated is when you install the sequel over it.

I cant speak for anyone else, but this part is important for me. Hopefully you can get the sequel to the level you and we hope for and Cliffs will therefore also benefit.

Good luck and cheers.

EDIT: lol ... just saw the posts above mine saying essentially the same thing posted as I was typing.

Luthier said:

I’m sure most of you will agree that we have already supported our release more than perhaps any other developer in a similar situation.

No, not agree I'm afraid. One disaster heaped on another.

Perhaps some concessionary truth about the past would earn goodwill for the future. Glossing over things and putting standard-issue spin on the situation helps no-one.

Black Six has been doing such a good job managing the forums and interacting with the community that it really allowed me to sit back and just focus on managing the product.

BlackSix has been the fire buffer between the forum and the devs and placed in a very difficult position, and sometimes made to look ridiculous (perhaps through no fault of his own, and nothing to do with his command of English). The answers he has given (or been allowed to give) have been oddly-worded, idiosyncratic, sometimes evasive, sometimes oddly whimsical, sometimes banal, and have often turned out to be factually incorrect.

This is suggests the supply of information to Blacksix has not been thought out very well, if at all. It also suggests a distinct lack of anythign resembling coherent project management.

The number of dissenting voices on here is not high, so I thought they should be adequately represented. In short the reaction to Clod has been awful, not that you would often guess it from this forum in recent months. This is a fact, not a slight against the forum.

[planespotter]

Originally Posted by falstaff

luthier said:



No, not agree i'm afraid. One disaster heaped on another.

Perhaps some concessionary truth about the past would earn goodwill for the future. Glossing over things and putting standard-issue spin on the situation helps no-one.



Blacksix has been the fire buffer between the forum and the devs and placed in a very difficult position, and sometimes made to look ridiculous (perhaps through no fault of his own, and nothing to do with his command of english). The answers he has given (or been allowed to give) have been oddly-worded, idiosyncratic, sometimes evasive, sometimes oddly whimsical, sometimes banal, and have often turned out to be factually incorrect.

This is suggests the supply of information to blacksix has not been thought out very well, if at all. It also suggests a distinct lack of anythign resembling coherent project management.

The number of dissenting voices on here is not high, so i thought they should be adequately represented. In short the reaction to clod has been awful, not that you would often guess it from this forum in recent months. This is a fact, not a slight against the forum.

+1000

Support for fixing CloD has not been good (compare yourselves to Rise of Flight, or DCS? You cannot) - still the game has not the features promised on launch, i won't list the huge list of things broken or missing we all know them, and now you expect people will buy your sequel? You say yourself you are not proud of it.

Sorry but I must conclude 1C does not live on the same planet as we players (and, I point out, PAYERS).

To discuss the work on CloD as dragging down your bottom line and sending into the red, please reconsider. Fixing CloD is an investment in your future, encourage people to buy your sequel. Why should they when you do not fix what is broken, it will be the same for the sequel.

UNLESS YOU MAKE THE SEQUEL FREE OR BIG DISCOUNT FOR PLAYERS WHO MADE THE MISTAKE TO BUY CLOD.

[Stirwenn]

As some Posts above, Luthier.
Thanks for the comm.
One question : how could you expect to me buying your sequel if you do not fix the basis of original product ? Give me a proof to trust in you.

[kristorf]

All I can really say is 'we will see', so many knock backs already for the forgotten segment in this farce, the customer, that I will believe it when its out and working.

However, if I am reading this properly there will be a patch for CLoD, that will fix some of it, but for the finished product (paid for many months ago) we will need to shell out more £/$?

[icarus]

Originally Posted by kristorf

All I can really say is 'we will see', so many knock backs already for the forgotten segment in this farce, the customer, that I will believe it when its out and working.

However, if I am reading this properly there will be a patch for CLoD, that will fix some of it, but for the finished product (paid for many months ago) we will need to shell out more £/$?

+1

Pulling that business model on Wall Street will get you jail time.

[Trumper]

Originally Posted by planespotter

+1000

Support for fixing CloD has not been good (compare yourselves to Rise of Flight, or DCS? You cannot) - still the game has not the features promised on launch, i won't list the huge list of things broken or missing we all know them, and now you expect people will buy your sequel? You say yourself you are not proud of it.

Sorry but I must conclude 1C does not live on the same planet as we players (and, I point out, PAYERS).

To discuss the work on CloD as dragging down your bottom line and sending into the red, please reconsider. Fixing CloD is an investment in your future, encourage people to buy your sequel. Why should they when you do not fix what is broken, it will be the same for the sequel.

UNLESS YOU MAKE THE SEQUEL FREE OR BIG DISCOUNT FOR PLAYERS WHO MADE THE MISTAKE TO BUY CLOD.

Agreed ,i am afraid i won't be buying the sequel on the whim,i will wait and see but to be honest i really can't see how you can expect people to buy the sequel .