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The 109 (G2 atleast) makes a relatively clean and controllable snap roll. Very quick reactions are needed of course. Left snap roll is done by pushing left pedal fully down, and pulling stick fully to rear right. And vice versa. I once trained to make it at will... but in the heat of combat, not a chance ![]() ![]() ![]()
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I think, to would be a nice evasive maneuver, a half snaproll and then diving down like a split-S, as also seen in that video. Its the fastest way to lay your plan on the back. And from the sight of your opponent behind you, it brings you imidiatly out of the line of fire - contrary to a simple roll.
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Would this be acceptable ??
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Not bad, but compare it to the footage. That snap roll was slower, the aircraft was wallowing about the whole time, and it ended the maneuver much lower than when it started.
I'm sure you're a good sim-pilot, K_Freddie, but there's nothing for you to prove. There's no way anyone is going to pull off a proper snap roll in Il-2. The game just won't allow it, because it simplifies things too much. |
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As I mentioned, with rudder pedals (more precise control) one can get very close to that film clip.
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First, note slow snap roll and split-S by the flight at 0:33. Next, note the slow barrel rolls at 0:45. Next highlight is the 4-plane slow roll at 1:29. Then the snap roll at 1:39. Lots of very pretty, well-done snap rolls and slow barrel rolls starting at about 2:48 on the film, followed by an amazing two-plane end-over-end stall and recovery at 3:04. They have virtual flying skills which make me weep with envy. Now, if the fighting Woodpeckers, or some of the other really dedicated IL2 virtual acrobatics squadrons, say you can't do some aerobatic maneuver in the game, I'll believe them. Otherwise, not so much . . . Last edited by Pursuivant; 08-12-2012 at 06:09 AM. |
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An aileron roll and a snap roll are two totally different things. Everything you pointed out in the video is an aileron roll.
A snap roll involves a rapid pitch-up and copious input of rudder to force one wing into a stall. The asymmetric lift quickens the roll (hence "snap roll" - it happens in a snap). An aileron roll, despite the name, involves all three control axes (ailerons, elevator, and rudder) in order to keep the airplane traveling at a constant altitude and heading. Aileron rolls are easy to perform, but VERY hard to do as well as in that video. That flip in the P-38, though cool, has nothing to do with snap rolls. But those guys are great pilots, yes. ![]() Last edited by Luno13; 08-12-2012 at 08:20 AM. |
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Indeed, Luno is right, there are no snaprolls in that (otherwise impressive) vid.
Aileron- and barrel rolls are both quite easy to do in IL-2.
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Only a Sim Pilot... Actually .. I have no pilot qualification.. period!
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