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Old 08-03-2012, 11:18 PM
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btw your quote is irrelevant since if your govt imposes mandatory service unto you, then you are not free.....
No one is 'free'. We all live in society and are all bound by the restrictions of our laws, culture and social expectations. Depending upon which system we live under we are given 'freedoms' to pursue our lives in the way we see fit - in limited areas. We call them our rights.

In pre-school children are taught that even though they have their rights, with them come responsibilites. Now even though we hope people will choose to meet their responsibilites if they fail to do so those responsibilities will be forced upon them by the full weight of the systrem (law culture and social expectaions).

Now my original comment was light hearted dig at the youth of today (you can tell by the ) who are all (without exception) G-D Tree Hugging Neo-Hippies and could all do with decent haircuts and a good couple of years in National service.

All your comments merely re-enforce my views.
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Old 08-04-2012, 02:52 AM
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No one is 'free'. We all live in society and are all bound by the restrictions of our laws, culture and social expectations. Depending upon which system we live under we are given 'freedoms' to pursue our lives in the way we see fit - in limited areas. We call them our rights.

In pre-school children are taught that even though they have their rights, with them come responsibilites. Now even though we hope people will choose to meet their responsibilites if they fail to do so those responsibilities will be forced upon them by the full weight of the systrem (law culture and social expectaions).

Now my original comment was light hearted dig at the youth of today (you can tell by the ) who are all (without exception) G-D Tree Hugging Neo-Hippies and could all do with decent haircuts and a good couple of years in National service.

All your comments merely re-enforce my views.
you view of freedom is foolish and does not equate to freedom....


THE only real responsibility or obligation you have in a free society is to NOT encroach or infringe on the rights of others,

also to follow through with what ever legal contracts you have knowingly entered into....

their is no preconditions you must meet or other obligations you must fulfill in order to be allowed to exercise your rights or to gain your status as a free individual....again your freedom is innate...its creator endowed....


you seem to be the opposit of "freedom loving" i mean you are even critical of the way people choose to look... i mean seriously....

i mean so many people here have NO IDEA on the principles of a truly free society...most of you lack any historical understanding as well...i am blown away by the misconceptions posted here in this thread, and the people ignorant about something they should be cherishing, and that is their freedom (or for some here, the potential freedom that they could have, should they choose to exercise it, regardless of what some law says)

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