SHOOTING at the OLYMPICS

[Outlaw]

Originally Posted by arthursmedley

So, for you Outlaw. Lets recap; we have been invited to consider the personality traits of people with large collections of firearms. As I am lucky enough to live in a society where personal firearms have been largely removed I have affirmed that I do indeed believe these people to be "nutters". So far I have only received personal abuse for this affirmation.
I have then asked why my views are wrong but seem to have received no coherent answer. Wanna try? Remember, I live in a society that is unarmed but to help you one of my definitions of idiot would certainly be someone who owned three hundred firearms.

My bad, I did not realize that your statement applied to citizens of your country only. I'm not making an excuse for my bad but it would have been helpful to be a little more specific though as this discussion has largely been around the ownership of firearms in the US.

I agree that anyone with 300 illegal guns is certainly a, "nutter" and an idiot.



--Outlaw.

[F19_Klunk]

Originally Posted by tk471138

i guess you really dont understand anything about freedom....unless that is you dont have any or simply dont care....

see your freedom is INNATE...thats what the founders of the USA meant when they said creator...it could be god Allah, Jesus, Buddha, your parents, nature, who ever....

this is basic stuff....

by including this in the first LEGAL documents of this country, it essentially says that your freedom comes from an "authority" HIGHER than govt....

these are REAL legal principles...so go cry if you dont like them...but my freedom is more important than your false sense of security....

oh... Dear.. I Think that Was my cue to leave the Room. IAmazing and amusing.... Wow.. I mean... Wow

[arthursmedley]

Originally Posted by tk471138

reading isnt one of your stronger skills is it....read the first half of that statment....


also in history many feudal societies have restricted the arms of the day from the peasant and lower classes...to keep them oppressed...


through out history we have restricted arms from black and native Americans, again in the name of racism of and oppression....\\

Chavez is a recent example...

I did read the first half of your statement and I'll ask you again; give us the name of a dictator that disarmed "the people"? Guess what, when my country was a feudal society the men were required to practise with the Long Bow. I'm really not sure what the sad history of black and native Americans has got to do with this thread but it's your history.

Chavez? Hugo Chavez? He's up for re-election this year isn't he?

[tk471138]

Originally Posted by arthursmedley

I did read the first half of your statement and I'll ask you again; give us the name of a dictator that disarmed "the people"? Guess what, when my country was a feudal society the men were required to practise with the Long Bow. I'm really not sure what the sad history of black and native Americans has got to do with this thread but it's your history.

Chavez? Hugo Chavez? He's up for re-election this year isn't he?

lol egypt had election too but it took a violent revolution get him outa power....

also feudal japan was one such country...im sorry the extent of your knowledge is so limited...

disarming unpopular groups or classes has ALWAYS been a popular and obvious (i guess not so obvious for some) tactic by those looking to oppress people....this is obvious...and i already stated examples....


since you seem so limited in your ability i went and did research for you....


“The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty. So let’s not have any native militia or native police. German troops alone will bear the sole responsibility for the maintenance of law and order throughout the occupied Russian territories, and a system of military strong-points must be evolved to cover the entire occupied country.”
- Adolf Hitler, dinner talk on April 11, 1942


“If the opposition disarms, well and good. If it refuses to disarm, we shall disarm it ourselves.”
- Joseph Stalin

In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. By 1987 that figure had risen to 61,911,000.

Pol Pot
Cambodia established gun control in 1956. Between 1975 and 19793, 2,035,000 “educated” people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
During the short four years of its rule in Cambodia, Pol Pot’s Khmer Rouge government murdered over 31 percent of the entire Cambodian population.


“All political power comes from the barrel of a gun. The communist party must command all the guns, that way, no guns can ever be used to command the party.”
- Mao Tze Tung, Nov 6 1938

China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952 10,076,000 political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated in Kuomintang China, and by 1987 another 35,236,000 exterminations were carried out under the Communists.

“Armas para que? (“Guns, for what?”)”
A response to Cuban citizens who said the people might need to keep their guns, after Castro announced strict gun control in Cuba.
- Fidel Castro


Karl Marx also advocated for gun control....maybe cuz his whole philosophy was intent upon eliminating the rights of the individual....

[F19_Klunk]

Oh crap. living in a country with gun restrictions Laws makes me opressed and unfree!! Thanks for informing me !! Wow again

i bet the next thing you Will inform me of is that i live in a communist country

this forum is developing to become the home of cliches and preconceptions

[tk471138]

Originally Posted by F19_Klunk

Oh crap. living in a country with gun restrictions Laws makes me opressed and unfree!! Thanks for informing me !! Wow again

i bet the next thing you Will inform me of is that i live in a communist country

slaves cant own guns and prisoners cant either....so you must be one those right??

[F19_Klunk]

*flabbergasted* Amazing

[tk471138]

Originally Posted by F19_Klunk

*flabbergasted* Amazing

the amazing thing is you have been constantly wrong in this exchange....and you still keep going....i mean common sense things seem to elude you....

[nearmiss]

The thread is turning into a one-liner argument between a few.

Maybe it is time to close the thread. After an hour we will see, if it returns to productive respectable discussion or more of the same.

[arthursmedley]

Don't worry nearmiss. I'm outta this one, it's become comedy hour.
Still, at least I learned the Swedes are slaves!