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Old 08-02-2012, 07:41 PM
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Please give us an example of such a dictator.


reading isnt one of your stronger skills is it....read the first half of that statment....


also in history many feudal societies have restricted the arms of the day from the peasant and lower classes...to keep them oppressed...


through out history we have restricted arms from black and native Americans, again in the name of racism of and oppression....\\

Chavez is a recent example...

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Old 08-02-2012, 07:52 PM
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reading isnt one of your stronger skills is it....read the first half of that statment....


also in history many feudal societies have restricted the arms of the day from the peasant and lower classes...to keep them oppressed...


through out history we have restricted arms from black and native Americans, again in the name of racism of and oppression....\\

Chavez is a recent example...
I did read the first half of your statement and I'll ask you again; give us the name of a dictator that disarmed "the people"? Guess what, when my country was a feudal society the men were required to practise with the Long Bow. I'm really not sure what the sad history of black and native Americans has got to do with this thread but it's your history.

Chavez? Hugo Chavez? He's up for re-election this year isn't he?
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Old 08-02-2012, 07:57 PM
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I did read the first half of your statement and I'll ask you again; give us the name of a dictator that disarmed "the people"? Guess what, when my country was a feudal society the men were required to practise with the Long Bow. I'm really not sure what the sad history of black and native Americans has got to do with this thread but it's your history.

Chavez? Hugo Chavez? He's up for re-election this year isn't he?
lol egypt had election too but it took a violent revolution get him outa power....

also feudal japan was one such country...im sorry the extent of your knowledge is so limited...

disarming unpopular groups or classes has ALWAYS been a popular and obvious (i guess not so obvious for some) tactic by those looking to oppress people....this is obvious...and i already stated examples....


since you seem so limited in your ability i went and did research for you....


“The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty. So let’s not have any native militia or native police. German troops alone will bear the sole responsibility for the maintenance of law and order throughout the occupied Russian territories, and a system of military strong-points must be evolved to cover the entire occupied country.”
- Adolf Hitler, dinner talk on April 11, 1942


“If the opposition disarms, well and good. If it refuses to disarm, we shall disarm it ourselves.”
- Joseph Stalin

In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. By 1987 that figure had risen to 61,911,000.

Pol Pot
Cambodia established gun control in 1956. Between 1975 and 19793, 2,035,000 “educated” people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
During the short four years of its rule in Cambodia, Pol Pot’s Khmer Rouge government murdered over 31 percent of the entire Cambodian population.


“All political power comes from the barrel of a gun. The communist party must command all the guns, that way, no guns can ever be used to command the party.”
- Mao Tze Tung, Nov 6 1938

China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952 10,076,000 political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated in Kuomintang China, and by 1987 another 35,236,000 exterminations were carried out under the Communists.

“Armas para que? (“Guns, for what?”)”
A response to Cuban citizens who said the people might need to keep their guns, after Castro announced strict gun control in Cuba.
- Fidel Castro


Karl Marx also advocated for gun control....maybe cuz his whole philosophy was intent upon eliminating the rights of the individual....

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Old 08-02-2012, 08:01 PM
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Oh crap. living in a country with gun restrictions Laws makes me opressed and unfree!! Thanks for informing me !! Wow again

i bet the next thing you Will inform me of is that i live in a communist country

this forum is developing to become the home of cliches and preconceptions
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Oh crap. living in a country with gun restrictions Laws makes me opressed and unfree!! Thanks for informing me !! Wow again

i bet the next thing you Will inform me of is that i live in a communist country

slaves cant own guns and prisoners cant either....so you must be one those right??
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*flabbergasted* Amazing
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*flabbergasted* Amazing
the amazing thing is you have been constantly wrong in this exchange....and you still keep going....i mean common sense things seem to elude you....
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Oh crap. living in a country with gun restrictions Laws makes me opressed and unfree!! Thanks for informing me !! Wow again

i bet the next thing you Will inform me of is that i live in a communist country

this forum is developing to become the home of cliches and preconceptions
How soon you'd change your drum beat if your government rounded you up and lined you up to be exterminated. This has happened many times through out recorded history. I'm sure the victims or their families, survivors, or anyone that lived through a horrific event like that had escape, self preservation, or murder on their mind. Go through a life/death experience by the will of the same people you trust to protect you and your views on self perservation or the preparation for it will change. If you think your government or any government is free from many forms of corruption, genocide, or putting your life in danger one only needs to look at history. If we can go 1000 years without an event like this I'd might change my mind. But we can't even go one human life cycle with out this treatment found throughout the world. Laugh at those that know the real world or prepare for a possible day when theirs could be turned up side down, but I bet you wouldn't be laughing if you were dragged from your home by your own government and marched into a death camp with no means of doing anything about it. I'm glad everything is fine for you now, but if you think the world is on any sort of upworld spiral you're sadly mistaken.

I almost feel sorry for the amount of trust you put into people whos only true interest is money and power. That's exactly why big business and banks run the world. That's exactly why decisions in government are hardly ever based on their moral implications but instead on their financial ones. That's why 9 out of every 10 people in a power position got there because of their ties to big business, big oil, or family/political power ties. It has absolutely nothing to do with what you are hoping to achieve. And if you think those that have been bread to be a congressman from birth, grew up having the maid clean their room, paid other people to do their homework/studies while attending any ivy league school, etc., know anything about the common man, you have really got to be kidding yourself. There is no such thing as democracy anywhere in the world. You can vote all you want, but you're voting for the person or people that were put in that position to be voted for in the 1st place. I think a typical presidential campaign is on the verge of 200 million dollars now. In other words, it's big brother and the boys club running the show. It's always been this way and continues to get worse.

I'm not saying that people need to round up an arsenal or any of that jazz, but if your government won't let you own a gun there's a very big problem. The other thing is the US was founded upon that principle. When the colonists sent the brits packing, much of the fighting was done by the average man and his own weapons. That has been pounded into our heads since we could walk. That's kinda what America is all about, the roots of it if you will. We fled to get out of the that in Europe. We will not be oppressed by any form of government especially our own without being able to have the right to own weapons that your government has.
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How soon you'd change your drum beat if your government rounded you up and lined you up to be exterminated.
Owning a handgun or AR15 would not stop the military or a SWAT team. If they want to get you, they will...
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Owning a handgun or AR15 would not stop the military or a SWAT team. If they want to get you, they will...
Your military is made up of the sons and daughters of its citizens. We'd have a nice discussion with our kids about what's going on and and believe me...we parents would flip'em. Then the hunter becomes the hunted.

These are their moms and dads that they'd be asked to perform such deeds upon. A foreign Army would be considered an invasion which is in entirely different matter.

But to round up their own...

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