SHOOTING at the OLYMPICS

[Zorin]

Originally Posted by CWMV

Good god I hope not. Or heck have it for yourselves, I just hope we stay out of it.

Free men are armed, slaves need permission.

Oh, so that is why the US have been constantly involved in military actions for the last two centuries? Ensuring that the rest of the world remain their slaves...

Makes perferct sense, though you may want to try not to **** up your banks leading the world into financial chaos

[Walshy]

Originally Posted by Zorin

Oh, so that is why the US have been constantly involved in military actions for the last two centuries? Ensuring that the rest of the world remain their slaves...

Makes perferct sense, though you may want to try not to **** up your banks leading the world into financial chaos

Well they already did and now to have Obama sit in on Euro meetings and tell us to fix the Euro crisis is a bit rich, seeing as the whole financial crisis originated in America and the selling of subprime mortages to people who could not keep up the repayments ........ Re-Regulate the worlds financial sector now!!!! Maggie and Reagan have a lot to answer for, cause that's where the deregulation began ...................

[Walshy]

Two films to watch that I recommend The Last Days of Lehman Brothers and Inside Job

[chantaje]

Originally Posted by Walshy

Two films to watch that I recommend The Last Days of Lehman Brothers and Inside Job

inside job is great, ill try to see the other one.
dont worry soon china will take over and there they execute corrupt goverment members

[Jaws2002]

The UN treaty was torpedoed yesterday by Obama, who fears for his chances in the elections.
It was a joke anyway. This kind of treaties never stoped criminals, gangs and terrorists from getting guns, ever. They only hurt the legal civilian international sales. I hope this one too dies. It's worthless.

[Zorin]

Originally Posted by Jaws2002

The UN treaty was torpedoed yesterday by Obama, who fears for his chances in the elections.
It was a joke anyway. This kind of treaties never stoped criminals, gangs and terrorists from getting guns, ever. They only hurt the legal civilian international sales. I hope this one too dies. It's worthless.

What does a civilian need a machine gun for???

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by Zorin

What does a civilian need a machine gun for???

So he can shoot another civillian with a machine gun who is about to burgle his house...I think.

[Jaws2002]

Originally Posted by Zorin

What does a civilian need a machine gun for???

This is not only about machine guns.

[CWMV]

Originally Posted by pstyle

Free men are those of us who are free from the armed.

As long as your government has arms, you are not free from them.
Do you truly believe you have no right to self defense and preservation?

"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
-Thomas Jefferson

But the right to arms isnt about hunting or sporting or if a man "needs" to have a weapon, its about the defense of liberty pure and simple.

Originally Posted by Zorin

What does a civilian need a machine gun for???

Individually an armed citizen is meaningless. Collectively they are a source to defend against a government overstepping its bounds and infringing upon the freedom of the citizenry.

”The right of the people to keep and bear…arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country…”
-James Madison

”The tank, the B-52, the fighter-bomber, the state-controlled police and military are the weapons of dictatorship. The rifle is the weapon of democracy. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military. The hired servants of our rulers. Only the government-and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws.”
-Edward Abbey

"Every citizen should be a soldier. This was the case with the Greeks and Romans, and must be that of every free state."
Thomas Jefferson

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by Zorin

What does a civilian need a machine gun for???

ask that to the Jews in the Warsaw ghetto in 1944...

Guys, not another gun debate please, I don't think you can understand if you've never used one, and surely the higher moral grounds of some of the anti-gun people here show very poor historical memory and lack of common sense.

Feel free to live without the need for a gun, but please save your wit and sarcasm, because you never know in life when/if you're gonna need to handle a gun.. let's hope not, but if it happens you'd better know what to do..