Ati 4850

[BAXTER STOCKMAN]

When Doom3 was released in 2004 i had a athlon 2200+ 512mb ram and a 5700 128 mb. I was able to run it at medium settings 640x480 but when i try to run it at high settings 800x600 it was slow like hell . a few months after the release of Doom3 my friend bought a athlon 300+ with 512mb ram and 9550 and he was able to run doom3 in high quality 800x600 at 60 fps. A year after i bough my athlon x2 4400+ 1gb ram ddr 400 7900gt 512mb. And i had much more pefomance and better graphics in games than him. I was able to run Tomb Raider Legend with Next Gen graphics at almost full speed(they were a few slowdowns sometimes) but in his system next gen graphics were disabled. After a year in july of 2007, my 7900gt broke down due to heat problems so i went to the 8600 gt that was a piece of crap. And finaly this january i sold the 8600 gt for 80 euros and i bough the 8800gt for 160 euros( the delete 80 euros from the price of the 8800gt because i sold them the 8600)

Here you can read a good rewiev of ATI 4850/4870: http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/148...ion/index.html

In PT Boats, a game of 1C, Nvidia cards runs better. Seems this game optimised for Nvidia. Will be the same for Storm of War?

4S_Nero

[Feuerfalke]

Thanks for posting that test.

I think your question resulting from the test is also a good example how many people think: If I get more FPS with this card in this game, then it must be better.

Or even better: The game was optimized for this card.

To be honest, most of the time it is the exact other way. Drivers are optimized for games, especially to benchmark games, because they know exactly, that there are many people who just think just like what you just posted. nVidia is renown or better hated for that tactics by fans and enemies alike, because this advantage in speed comes with the price of a lack in quality of the rendering, especially in texture-filters and texturing of objects over distances.

The problem is, maximum FramesPerSecond is not the only important thing about graphics, as it says nothing about the rendering quality, stability of FPS and even less about the hardware used.

I know my question may seem superficial or stupid but my ignorance about video card is big. I need only some help because i need to buy a new video card. Now i play IL2 with ATI1950 pro 512

[Feuerfalke]

Originally Posted by 4S_Nero

I know my question may seem superficial or stupid but my ignorance about video card is big. I need only some help because i need to buy a new video card. Now i play IL2 with ATI1950 pro 512

It's a pretty common opinion, nothing else, and I perfectly understand it.

I don't need to get a new gfx-card, honestly, but considering the bang for the money and the upcoming games (BlackShark and BoB) I consider getting an AMD/ATI HD4870. It's slightly slower than nVidias, but considerably cheaper than the nVidia-competitors and consumes less power, thus stays cooler.

I'll wait another few weeks probably, until both start fighting with even lower prices.

Originally Posted by Feuerfalke

It's a pretty common opinion, nothing else, and I perfectly understand it.

I don't need to get a new gfx-card, honestly, but considering the bang for the money and the upcoming games (BlackShark and BoB) I consider getting an AMD/ATI HD4870. It's slightly slower than nVidias, but considerably cheaper than the nVidia-competitors and consumes less power, thus stays cooler.

I'll wait another few weeks probably, until both start fighting with even lower prices.

Me too

[Thunderbolt56]

For TODAY'S games, either camp will do/run them with high settings, good IQ and decent frames with relative ease. The NV8800GT/GTS cards are still fantastic bang for buck. They aren't as fast (in raw power) as the latest from Nvidia (GTX260/280) or ATI (4850/4870)but are still a great solution for most people in the single-card setups and even good solutions for those wanting to run SLI.

I have a single NV8800GTS 512 right now and have great IQ. I run 8xAA, 16xAF globally (though AF has little benefit for IL2) and rarely, if ever, go below 50 FPS and typically stay in the 70's at 1680x1050.

The true question should be: Which platform will run the next-gen games/sims with the best frames and the best IQ? There's no way to know that right now. Maddox has used NV cards for years in most of their pc's (according to interviews and readme files of the past) and likely will continue to do so (speculation) as long as NV stays on the front side of the performance curve.

I like the status of ATI these days and the release of the 4870 card is showing to be a great card with fantastic performance to price point.

I'm still leaning towards a GTX280 myself, but will wait until the price comes down. Perhaps one of the better cards right now is the GTX260 which is comparable in price to the ATI card with similar performance in some areas and even better in others.

Here are a few benchmark graphs from assorted (trusted) sites:







and some links:
http://translate.google.fi/translate...hl=en&ie=UTF-8
http://www.overclockersclub.com/revi...r_hd4850/7.htm