Freeman

[AndyJWest]

I am not not responsable foy you idiocy!

Seek psychiatric help. Urgently.

[5./JG27.Farber]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

Seek psychiatric help. Urgently.

Video Posted at Today, 02:09 AM

Your reply at Today, 03:49 AM

Not even time to watch the whole thing when you found it inbetween.... Nothing to say but that...

[AndyJWest]

Why the **** do you think I would want to watch it? Anyway, a few minute's Googling reveals that John Harris is just another conspiracy-theorist loon (with, yes, you guessed it, a website with a forum with a smattering of antisemitic drivel amongst all the other zaniness). Still, I recommend everyone to watch the last 5 minutes, when Harris tells us that he wants to shut down the internet. Given the deranged ramblings on this forum, maybe he has a point....

P.S. RationalWiki on Harris: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/John_Harris

[Feathered_IV]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

P.S. RationalWiki on Harris: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/John_Harris

Cor! That explains a LOT. Could this be the source of recent claims that Churchill had syphilis and Hitler offered his resignation to the British cabinet?

[AndyJWest]

Originally Posted by Feathered_IV

Cor! That explains a LOT. Could this be the source of recent claims that Churchill had syphilis and Hitler offered his resignation to the British cabinet?

Possibly, but I think it more likely that they were either found on some neo-you-know-who website, or simply pulled from the nether orifice of the person posting them.

[WTE_Galway]

Meh ... 2 hours is too long.

Anyway ... the influence of the Magna Carta has been substantially reduced in recent times.

In most common law countries the legislature is continually enacting new civil legislation which overrides the older common law precedents (Politicians do not like the idea of judges defining laws they want to be able to decide and overrule the courts).

Modern capitalist countries like the US pay lip service to the "Rule of Law" (the idea everyone is equal under the law) but in reality being a politician, having money, owning a newspaper or simply being a corporation means you are treated differently in law to the common man. Even serious cases like rape and murder are treated differently depending on who the individual is. Pascal Mazurier is an example of where "Rule of Law" was clearly not applied.

Even Habeus Corpus has been overruled in many countries with the flood new Terrorism legislation introduced over the last 10 years.

[Hood]

Habeus corpus originated in the English courts. To follow up on Galway's post I thought I'd touch on the two main different types of legal systems in the world.

One system is based on Roman law and the other on the English common law. Roman law is based on the rights of the state and it gives permissions for citizens to do certain things. For example a law may say that you are allowed to do X, Y and Z because the state gives permission.

Common law builds up over time from court decisions and legislation commonly says that you cannot do certain things. For example you can do whatever you like but you cannot do A, B and C because it infringes the rights of others, or you can do other things but you have to do it like so.

The split in the different types of systems follows broadly colonial lines, so the USA has a common law system (though its now a hybrid of the two) as do most ex-English colonies. Scotland and most ex-French and Spanish colonies have Roman law systems.

In my opinion most countries are having a gradual shift towards state control and this means a shift towards the Roman law system. I feel this is as a response to things like terrorism or external threats, not because of some conspiracy, and this is why habeus corpus is gradually being eroded - the state doing what it wants in order to protect the state and its peoples.

Personally I don't have a problem with it as long as it is for the right reasons. What the "right reasons" are is worthy of debate. Then the problem becomes how those reasons are applied.

Hood

Caveats

The above is a very general outline, for a better and fuller explanation do your own research. Any opinions expressed are my own and have nothing to do with previous posts or opinions expressed by anyone on this forum but instead are formed from my own life experiences and from what I do in my work.

[MB_Avro_UK]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

Possibly, but I think it more likely that they were either found on some neo-you-know-who website, or simply pulled from the nether orifice of the person posting them.

Yesterday, you said that you were leaving this forum for good. And that you were going to post on the Rise of Flight forum instead. You were yesterday very annoyed with this forum.

Why the 'U' turn?

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by MB_Avro_UK

Yesterday, you said that you were leaving this forum for good. And that you were going to post on the Rise of Flight forum instead. You were yesterday very annoyed with this forum.

Why the 'U' turn?

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

haha... you called him out