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Old 07-06-2012, 12:34 PM
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Before you say anything about me I am British, was born in Germany and I can't stand patriots.


Because of this I usually fly blue BUT don't ask me to fly italian planes...

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I have long forgotten why I started flying blue but my first few years playing il2 were spent flying for the reds.
For me it's simple: I always liked the Tie-Fighters more than the X-Wings... it a "Dark Side" matter.

I love games like Dungeon Keeper and Evil Genius...



Not that in WW2 there were a striking difference between Good and Bad, IMO.
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A whole generation of pilots learned to treasure the Spitfire for its delightful response to aerobatic manoeuvres and its handiness as a dogfighter. Iit is odd that they had continued to esteem these qualities over those of other fighters in spite of the fact that they were of only secondary importance tactically.Thus it is doubly ironic that the Spitfire’s reputation would habitually be established by reference to archaic, non-tactical criteria.
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Old 07-06-2012, 01:03 PM
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The war was Churchills decision alone!!?
Not entirely untrue.
Hitler wanted a cease-fire treaty with England from the beginning, the basic idea was to work in Africa together(or at least not bother each other). Had WC taken it, you'd still have your colonies today.



As of Summer '43 Hitler tried again to achieve the same with the Western Allies, of course they would only accept an unconditional capitulation, which he had to reject.
(source: rudel, stuka pilot)
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Old 07-06-2012, 01:17 PM
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That Stuka pilot interview video collection is awesome. Very long and detailed and talks about allot of aspects from the common soldiers point of view.


As for the red aircraft, I just find the instruments and the way the pitch works quite backwards. Also there is a plus side to flying blue, you get to fight all the other countries and in allot more theatres. Those that love the RAF aircraft are not going to be so happy with the Eastern front. Although the units which fly the VVS stuff will love it. We that fly blue get to enjoy allot more theatres!


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The images in my units signitures are awards from fighting in our camapigns against other squadrons. We try to emmulate the Luftwaffe as accuratley as possible. We combine flight simming with history. None of the images our personal beliefs. Our signitures are our virtual uniforms and the medals and awards are placed upon them in the same position as if it were a real tunic with the correct (although there wasnt much of rule in the Luftwaffe) order of precedence. By looking at one of members fully dressed signitures you can see what he has taken part in and estimate how many victories he has to his virtual career. Victories are only added when we fight against other squadrons in organised events and furthermore can only be added if you survive and get back to friendly lines. Its like a resume or CV. It is not an alignment to any political group, we are a apolitical unit. It is simply for historical accuracy reenactment purposes. We also write newspapers about our actions, I will include one for you below, just be careful as we try to emmulate a certain "Wochanschau" style in the content. Please also note the "One Sided Publication" at the bottom right. Hopefully now you can understand a little better my position.
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Old 07-06-2012, 01:27 PM
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Not entirely untrue.
Hitler wanted a cease-fire treaty with England from the beginning, the basic idea was to work in Africa together(or at least not bother each other). Had WC taken it, you'd still have your colonies today.

As of Summer '43 Hitler tried again to achieve the same with the Western Allies, of course they would only accept an unconditional capitulation, which he had to reject.
(source: rudel, stuka pilot)
arthursmedley's post was a question, not a statement. Notice the '?'.

It is naive to believe Hitler would honour any agreements, as history shows.
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Old 07-06-2012, 01:30 PM
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a cease fire was never on the cards after the polish and french invasions, to say that churchill or england are responsible for the war is hilarious. treaties were drawn up to restrict german expansion, and they were held. the fact that the poles were so royally shafted after the war is far more worth discussing than the apologist fallacy of "england and france started the war".
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Old 07-06-2012, 01:31 PM
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Yes because the British should have fought an unwinnable war alone against the Russians just so Britain could have been part of the Soviet Union too, makes perfect sense to do this immediately after a war which practically broke our country.
So you sat back and observed execution of milions in 1939 and then again of hundreds of thousands in 1945.

And puuuhlease man! You don`t have the slightest idea of what "broken country" means.
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Old 07-06-2012, 01:52 PM
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It is naive to believe Hitler would honour any agreements, as history shows.
Right, Stalin was much better. Unlike the Allies he didn't return his countries after the war. There was no way to avoid the war in the East, Stalin would have tried to advance westwards sooner or later anyway.


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arthursmedley's post was a question, not a statement. Notice the '?'.
Actually it was "!!?" a combo which doesnt exist["?!" does], I'll have to take it as "!!".
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Old 07-06-2012, 02:14 PM
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So you sat back and observed execution of milions in 1939 and then again of hundreds of thousands in 1945.

And puuuhlease man! You don`t have the slightest idea of what "broken country" means.
What exactly do you think the British could of done out of interest?
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Old 07-06-2012, 02:34 PM
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What exactly do you think the British could of done out of interest?
Maybe gather ~70 divisions along with France and march into Germany?
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The only victors in war are those that financially profited, and hence pulled the strings to a certain degree, even in WWI

Follow the money trail. Its way to complicated to digest in a short period of time. Want a wake up call, just follow the Bush families interests and investments start in WWII go to Present. Wow shocking ehh.

And it is all presently playing out once again. One thing is certain, never believe the spin the try to sell you on as far as the reasons behind why we do it, and do not trust the history you think you believe.

It is all so convoluted no one is really able to figure out the truth. Two things are certain most of what takes place is done for Money and Control
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