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Old 07-05-2012, 12:39 AM
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Hmmm.....The plot thickens.....Why did they not include this when it was proven to work so well with IL-2...Thats like not learning from something that lasted all those years.....weird!.....cycling the views on one button too...would be so easy....At the mo I am zooming in when I have the target close and then going to normal distance which for me is too far....I used to use the zoom in IL-2 when I got close to shoot.....then I had a button dedicated to one of the various 'FOV' distances too which was specific for my style.....but I struggle with this....Not an easy transition for me....like learning to fly again..DOH!

I bet that there is someone out there with the know how of how to do this in the files somewhere......Hmmmm....There's a lot of clever fellas out there!
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Old 07-05-2012, 01:22 AM
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has anybody tried editing the ini file and replace the current default 30-70-90 values (at least they were for the old il2) and enter the new values you need, for ex 30-50-120 ?

not sure if that is possible as a current workaround, but i find it frustrating we cant assign it in the options like we did for the old il2 (each screen size needs to be set to a specific FoV that corresponds to that screen size to make ingame objects/aircraft/vehicles look their correct sizes for the distance we view them from)

its one of those simple gameplay issues luthier is completely blind to in seeing the need to address them, yet it would be very simple for them to do

some movie makers reported they were/are able to set the exact FoV they want, but i think they do it by zooming in with the mouse to get the view they want, and cant control to snap to a specific FoV that is preset for our screensizes
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Old 07-05-2012, 02:05 AM
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I use the Hold button to increase/decrease my FOV, with my HOTAS and it actually works very well, the hold to adjust button is on my throttle and the increase/decrease buttons are on my stick, it took about 30 mins to adjust to it and now its second nature to zoom in and out as needed and is very smooth in combat.

It is very dependent on having a HOTAS granted but as long as you do it's a good system once you take the 5 mins it takes to set it up.
I actually prefer it to the IL-1946 system now I'm used to it.
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Old 07-05-2012, 02:12 AM
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I use the Hold button to increase/decrease my FOV, with my HOTAS and it actually works very well, the hold to adjust button is on my throttle and the increase/decrease buttons are on my stick, it took about 30 mins to adjust to it and now its second nature to zoom in and out as needed and is very smooth in combat.

It is very dependent on having a HOTAS granted but as long as you do it's a good system once you take the 5 mins it takes to set it up.
I actually prefer it to the IL-1946 system now I'm used to it.
I'll have to investigate that farther, skarden. I have a HOTAS and I've tried to do what you explained but had no luck with it. Even after a reinstall I couldn't assign the two buttons to work together. I figured it was another broken part of the game - sort of like assigning fuel cocks and not having them work within the game.

I've got CH HOTAS and would love to be able to use the throttle's gimbal. Anyone have luck with that?
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Old 07-05-2012, 03:31 AM
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There are 3 default zoom levels that work ok for me. Its not what im used to but its usable. Otherwise the only other way to get custom zoom is to map a key and use the mouse which is obviously pretty clumsy! (what on earth were they thinking! Its not a turn based RPG or RTS!) Ive mapped the default FOV zooms to X52 throttle mouse wheel down(zoom in)/up(zoom out) and click for default zoom.

PS editing the ini defaults doesnt work.

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Old 07-05-2012, 04:10 AM
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You have to set it up using "Hold To Adjusts Field of View" in "Camera" tab then use your mouse to zoon in/out.
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Old 07-05-2012, 07:43 AM
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I got this mouse emulation program to work with the saitek SST software.
I created a macro in the saitek SST software with 8 key presses as a macro which emulates moving the mouse. The more macro key presses the more it zooms in or out.

mapped num pad keys 8 & 5 (mouse up/down) to my x52 throttle mouse wheel and the mouse click button on the throttle for hold to zoom.
Can now zoom in and out to any FOV with 1 hand and dont have to take hands off HOTAS! Throttle Mouse wheel click resets to default zoom!
You could use this same approach with any joystick key and its mapping software to create the same macro and get the same effect.

You could even program in default custom FOV by running the macro for shorter or longer and have as many FOV's as you want mapped to as many of your HOTAS buttons as you want to use. (or multiple presses of only 2 button macros could achieve the same effect)

Again not perfect but i got used to it pretty quickly in testing this afternoon!

http://rhdesigns.browseto.org/mouseemulator.html
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Old 07-05-2012, 01:20 PM
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You have to set it up using "Hold To Adjusts Field of View" in "Camera" tab then use your mouse to zoon in/out.
but you dont know what exact value you have set it to then, do you ?

what we need is a simple method, like in the old il2 preferences to set a specific FoV value for the screen size we have, and then assign it to our preferred keys or hotas buttons. eg right now for my 27' monitor i want "normal" to be set to 50 or 55 degrees, and keep a zoomed and a wide view on the other buttons, which afaik you still cant do (eg setting the 60 or 55 FoV assigned to a key or hotas control)

it is a quality control issue by luthier not to include features in CoD that previously worked well in the previous il2 series, while he is focusing instead on trying to reinvent the wheel on the big problem issues with little time to do so.
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Old 10-28-2012, 04:42 PM
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I'm using joy-to-key set up to push the hold to adjust field of fov combined with a mouse down action, this gives you 4 field of views at the click of a button on my joystick, you could probably make joytokey cycle field of views also, it's a great program and it has allowed me to set up a mic button on my stick also, something teamspeak hotkeys wouldn't do, give it a try.~S~
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After I've been in COD for a while I have to go back into MS FSX to remind myself how fast and smooth and intuitive pan, zoom, and change view can and should be.

All I seem to be able to do with the hat switch on my controller in COD is snap from quadrant to quadrant. Nothing resembling smooth panning. Have I not done something in the setup that I should have ?
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