The unfortunate turth

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by furbs

I dont give a toss what you do.
Im just putting you right.

So again what part is untrue?

I just answered that question. Can`t you read either?

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by furbs

Again a attack. That's 2 times in this thread alone. Is that your only comeback?

Then go ahead and report. If that is in fact an attack then I will get an infraction.

I just put you up against the wall. You started sqeaking failed notes. It is ok with me if you don`t want to continue. You are a phoney, furbs.

[kendo65]

Good posts from lensman and Mysticpuma in this thread. I find a lot to agree with in both their positions.

Here’s where I’m at. The alpha patch has produced a performance increase for me (and others). There are obviously a lot of bugs and issues, but they've stated it's an alpha and I’m willing to take them at face value for now and reserve judgement until the beta / final releases of the patch.

There is a lot of wild speculation merging into full-blown conspiracy theory flying around once again. Personally, I’ve always found the ‘screw-up’ point of view more convincing than the conspiracy theories. That’s true for this patch as well.

The deciding moment will come once the patch hits beta and then full Steam release. If it isn’t solid and producing good results by then I would say that everyone is justified to complain and or even abandon the game. Like many, my own patience has been pushed very close to breaking over the last 6+ months. The devs know this patch HAS to cut it. I’m willing to wait until it is final before passing judgement.

As for the speculation about them fobbing us off with a stalling tactic, rip-off patch and then not seeing anything else until BOM – there’s no evidence for it. Believe it if you want - OR wait for a few weeks and see for yourself what happens. We’ll all find out soon enough.

For now though some of the talk is getting hysterical.

[GloDark7]

In trials of a leading hair growth tonic, 60% of balding men noticed new hair growth.

In trials of a leading anti-aging cream, 70% of people noticed an improvement.

...50% OF THE PPL THAT TRIED THE ALPHA NOTICED AN IMPROVEMENT!

I wasn't one of the lucky 50% of alpha patch testers but I'm sure my hairline has stopped receding and I have less wrinkles.

I re-installed the latest version from Steam yesterady (clean install) and got a CTD on startup, won't run at all. Updated to the Beta/Alpha, whatever you want to call it and got stuttering hell on medium to low settings. I'll come back later when it's fixed and the bickering has stopped. Wonder when that will be?

Glo

[nearmiss]

The unfortunate truth...

The devs are still working to resolve issues. Everyone was asking a patch. Generally, many mentioned they would be accepting of a beta patch knowing there would be issues.

Now we get threads like this, and we all know the patch was beta.

Yes, the devs are working on the COD. Yes, it is taking too long to suit many people.

This forums is not the whine and complaint venue.

Moderators are interested to keep a positive forum for the benefit of all our members.

We have all heard complaints and whines so many times no one in their right mind wants to keep reading that kind of verbal garbage.

Now the point is... Many of you that have posted your lousy continuous verbiage in this thread have reached the end of moderator patience.

The COD is what it is and it will be so until it is finalized. No one has any power over that except the developers.

Therefore... if you have put up a rant, whine or complaint in this thread you are on the proverbial hot seat. If you don't remove your trash talk postings you will get a ban, and some of you have that have continued to be contentious over the past year and you know who you are. You have exceeded the patience of moderators on this forums. Some of you may receive permanent (don't ever come back) bans, and others for several months.

This thread will be open for half of the day for edits and deletions of postings. If moderators have to edit any of your postings you will be considered non-compliant and you will receive ban. This thread will either be locked or possibly deleted thereafter.

Don't PM and ask moderators if your posting deserves "Special Attention". If you have put up a questionable post you should consider it a problem.

[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by nearmiss

Moderators are interested to keep a positive forum for the benefit of all our members.

...

Therefore... if you have put up a rant, whine or complaint in this thread you are on the proverbial hot seat.

I don't want to jump the gun, so can I ask for a clarification? Does this mean that any negative posts at all will risk a ban?

I know you said "in this thread" but will this extend elsewhere as well?

Just want to be clear, is all.

[Walrus1]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Well we have been accused of being the child in the back of the car shouting 'are we there yet', but most of us have realised that the driver of the car hasn't got a clue where is going, weve been driving around now for seven years, listening to the same old excuses, do you remember the absoloute blatent untruth about the PC's only having 2 gig of ram in them at the Russian show, thats why the game didn't run properly? The driver is like a moth round a light bulb.

The thing about it is, you are not a child, and you can get out of the car at any time.

And I know you paid $50, or euros, or pounds or whatever.

I agree with much of Mystic Puma's post: my confidence in the dev team to master this software is waning. Fast. But I haven't completely given up yet.

When I do, I will stop reading these forums. What's the point? I will certainly not stick around haranguing the development team and arguing with anyone who chooses to be optimistic.

[Ze-Jamz]

Tic Toc Tic Toc..

Tidy it up fellas and take that warning seriously..stop yer whining whatever side of the fence your on..

In fact dont...it will make for better visits to this forum

[MBF]

Originally Posted by Mysticpuma

I understand where you are coming from here Uther, but currently I am beta testing War thunder and they are not releasing it to the public yet because they want to nail down the netcode, bugs, features all at a steady rate.

About every 3-days (sometimes daily) Gaijin are updating their software to fix bug reports. Now that's service!

The thing is Cliffs of Dover is already out, people have paid money for it and now they are being asked to Alpha and beta test it.

We all now a Patch can bring it's own issues but the original release of Cliffs of Dover has never been stable (to release 'Gold' standard), there have always been crashes, features missing, in a nutshell it was not ready!

Now 14-months down the line, here's a release from 1C that they cross their fingers will do a job that should have been done before release....but here's the 'get out clause', they'll call it an Alpha/Beta and that way when the issues are still not resolved, well, it's not their fault as it was only a Alpha/Beta patch. not the full one we have waited for since release day?

I already stated, I'm 'on the hook', I will patch and I will buy the BoM in the hope I can actually have a working Simulation (and if they can get it stable...what a simulation!) but really, so long since it's release and we are still at 'sticking plaster' stage? It's not a really a good show is it?

I had hoped by now, not to be Beta testing software on a paid for release. I think if any of the patches had made the game as it should have been released AND THEN we were Alpha/Beta testing a new feature/update/effect that would be more than acceptable, it's just that currently the Software is still being fixed to bring it up to how it should have been released.

It's more a question of trust I think?

Do you trust them to part with more money when BoM comes out. Sadly (as I mentioned about the Hook) I think most players who hope for a sim will no-doubt spend their money (I already said I will), but this is just because I live in hope of the halcyon days of IL2. Whether BoM will fix CloD, I don't know, but for those who aren't willing to take that step, it really is sad that nearly a year-and-a-half since release, the software is still missing the dynamic weather (promised but now not coming until BoM) and the developer's are asking the community to Alpha/Beta test the software.

MP

Agreed, it is not a good show.

They have rewritten parts of the game, so that leaves them no choice but to test it as if the game was still in "development" stage. Why they did that... I do not know, but I suspect that some parts of the engine weren't looking pretty if they decided to go that way.

Yes they should have fixed it before it was released and by now it should be working on all computers, but they went for the "let's redo the foundation of the building with the building halfway done" approach (a bit exaggerated).

If what they are saying,

Not fully optimized: grass, clouds, and trees. Clouds cause constant FPS drop; grass and trees cause hick-ups. A few extra days of work for this, a few days for grass, few days for clouds, we felt that we could start open testing the patch without waiting for these changes. [...]

is true and they feel confident to start tracking down CTD errors, that's great.

It is terrible that after 14 months some people still cannot play the game, but hopefully that will change with the bug reports.

[SiThSpAwN]

The unfortunate truth...

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