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Old 04-29-2012, 11:34 AM
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Absence of evidence is no proof.

I am really worried about people with black and white thinking, they are really prone to err.
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Old 04-29-2012, 11:37 AM
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So what you are saying is that all the evidence pointing to the use of 100 octane is actually damaging to the case? in fact it would have been better to not have any and claim it's absence as a lack of proof to it's contrary?
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Old 04-29-2012, 12:19 PM
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Absence of evidence is no proof.
Au contraire! Half the truths we know are based on absence of evidence for the contrary. If you can't provide a single bit of evidence for a theory, it is considered wrong. Doesn't matter if it concerns orange ravens, a second sun or 87 octane fuel.
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Old 04-29-2012, 12:22 PM
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Au contraire! Half the truths we know are based on absence of evidence for the contrary. If you can't provide a single bit of evidence for a theory, it is considered wrong. Doesn't matter if it concerns orange ravens, a second sun or 87 octane fuel.
Well, we do know 87 octane was standard for Fighter Command at the start of the war and we know that by May 1940 only select Units of fighter command converted to 100 octane.

I'll let you guess what the rest of the Units kept operating on.
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Old 04-29-2012, 12:28 PM
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I'll leave the guessing to you, I'm interested in knowing.
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Old 04-29-2012, 12:34 PM
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Well, we do know 87 octane was standard for Fighter Command at the start of the war and we know that by May 1940 only select Units of fighter command converted to 100 octane.

I'll let you guess what the rest of the Units kept operating on.
We're not talking about May 1940. We're talking about the Battle of Britain.
So July, August, September. And we're not guessing.

So once again. Present you own argument and stop nit picking our's.

With some documents, circumstantial evidence, whatever it is that you've got that makes you so convinced that 87 octane was in widespread use by fighter command during the battle of Britain. Just saying that it was is a pathetic way to try and prove that what you say is correct. It's not like we're alone in our opinion. There are plenty of authors on the subject who agree with the argument that the conversion happened in the spring of 1940. If you want to change the general consensus then I'm afraid that "because kurfurst says so" isn't going to do it. It does however highlight what a closed mind you have.
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Old 04-29-2012, 12:40 PM
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We're not talking about May 1940. We're talking about the Battle of Britain.
So July, August, September. And we're not guessing.

So once again. Present you own argument and stop nit picking our's.

With some documents, circumstantial evidence, whatever it is that you've got that makes you so convinced that 87 octane was in widespread use by fighter command during the battle of Britain.
Well here it is. It clearly says that 100 octane is only issued to select fighter stations, and this is how it stayed, given the lack of evidence to the contrary.
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Old 04-29-2012, 12:42 PM
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Disappointing.
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Old 04-29-2012, 12:44 PM
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Disappointing.
Empty blabber...
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Old 04-29-2012, 12:46 PM
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Well here it is. It clearly says that 100 octane is only issued to select fighter stations, and this is how it stayed, given the lack of evidence to the contrary.

So a very contemporary graphic (I'm sure this technology is post 1940's)....in low resolution is all you need for evidence?

what is the source of that graphic? what is the source of info used to produce that graphic? does that information have a date to refference?
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