Why still no dive acceleration difference?

[mayshine]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

Go away, do the research. Provide the evidence, then bring it here. Real evidence. With actual data describing the results from properly defined tests. Not pictures that tell us nothing at all.

Or f*** off and troll somewhere else.

I found the potential problem, and come to 1c, to D team, to see some
help i can provide or some improvement can be made

I even spend time to serch the net and do the tests myself

Now, instead of being listened and thinking again and double check

I deserve f*** off

Really nice,

what a real simer

[AndyJWest]

Could some kind moderator please lock this pointless thread, and preferably block the clueless troll?

[mayshine]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

Could some kind moderator please lock this pointless thread, and preferably block the clueless troll?

let me see if it will be locked

Let someone reasonable judge if this is point less

The one who raise the personal attack should be BANed indeed

Let me tell you

some other groups/teams now are seriously treating the diving issue

acutually it is not a easy issue to be solved.

it is very very complicated issue may invole IL2 engine defect.

I tell you again, I am not someone who wander around for nothing

I am here coz I lay hope to Dteam and Il2

[mayshine]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

Could some kind moderator please lock this pointless thread, and preferably block the clueless troll?

and baning someone for saying something real but not comfortable is the Freedom institution your country so proud of?

you attacked me and u want me baned. woo....

[AndyJWest]

Originally Posted by mayshine

and baning someone for saying something real but not comfortable is the Freedom institution your country so proud of?

you attacked me and u want me baned. woo....

No. Telling clueless trolls to f*** off is what my country is proud of.

[FC99]

Originally Posted by mayshine

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please show your link of the documentation or so

Is it a memior or serious testing documentation?

I have docs showing the diving difference between different aircrafts

TAIC is very serious, have you read what I wrote about it? Report that deal with A6M5 and P-38,P-51 and P-47 is TAIC report No 38. A6M5 was tested against some Navy planes too,F6F-5, F4U-1D and FM-2. Results are published as TAIC Report No 17.

So far you didn't provided any evidence that would suggest that there is something fundamentally wrong with the game. IIRC Your picture that shows dives is from the post war magazine article.

And you will be hard pressed to find any RL test with planes diving at 90 deg straight into the ground or any 90 deg diving test for that matter, ~45 deg maximum angle during the dive is more typical.

[mayshine]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

No. Telling clueless trolls to f*** off is what my country is proud of.

I would like to advice you;

the best way to avoid telling the wrong one to f*** of

is to read more book and start calculation.

[mayshine]

Originally Posted by FC99

TAIC is very serious, have you read what I wrote about it? Report that deal with A6M5 and P-38,P-51 and P-47 is TAIC report No 38. A6M5 was tested against some Navy planes too,F6F-5, F4U-1D and FM-2. Results are published as TAIC Report No 17.

So far you didn't provided any evidence that would suggest that there is something fundamentally wrong with the game. IIRC Your picture that shows dives is from the post war magazine article.

And you will be hard pressed to find any RL test with planes diving at 90 deg straight into the ground or any 90 deg diving test for that matter, ~45 deg maximum angle during the dive is more typical.

would you please show me the link or so, I am new here

I am not here to attack someone

acctually I will be happy if I am proved wrong coz I will not have to be
plaged by this issue anymore and can fully enjoy the Il2

However, thru my/our calculation, things are different with those shown
in Il2

acutually, I do not believe the 45 degree dive is similar to 90 degree seriously

and this is the the blank point we are trying to figure out.

Fw 190 defence action will always start with a split s followed by a certain period of almost 90 degree dive

so the veticle dive has it's meaning

[mayshine]

letme show you some clue here

with the speed increased, the back-drag force will increase pronouncely
due to 1, deformation , 2, propeller pitch, 3, propeller tip speed,4, air wave darging force.

with this backward force increased largely.

the heavier aircraft should prevail in the diving.

roughly it is the result I got, and I am quite comfident it is meaningful
and to some extence correct.

[AndyJWest]

air wave darging force

rofl!