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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-21-2012, 10:25 AM
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just wait till steam goes down and you cant play ANY of the games you legitimately purchased...
And if you bother to read the EULA/TOS of said game, you'd see that you haven't bought the game, you've bought the right to play the game, until and unless the distributor/producer of said game revokes that right. Which, of course, they can do at any given time, without notifying you about it.

Steam goes down from time to time. That's what software and servers do *shrug* If you don't like it: Stop buying Steam-games. If you continue to buy Steam-games, you have absolutely NOTHING to complain about. At all, period.
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Old 04-21-2012, 11:40 AM
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Steam doesn't help when you've installed the game on the wrong account... When I buy BoM I will install it on my actual account - but does that mean technically I no longer own CoD - and they cannot be merged? For the same obvious reason that I cannot merge my game with another I don't 'own' even though I bought both and are both installed on the same computer?
My fault I know - was too excited... I fear I may have to buy CoD again.

But I am hoping that when that time arrives that CoD will be worth about $20 or less, which I am more than happy to pay!
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Old 04-22-2012, 12:25 AM
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It also means though you bought a game you cannot sell it anymore.
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Old 04-22-2012, 01:34 AM
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And if you bother to read the EULA/TOS of said game, you'd see that you haven't bought the game, you've bought the right to play the game, until and unless the distributor/producer of said game revokes that right. Which, of course, they can do at any given time, without notifying you about it.
I really despise that argument. I don't own the movie I bought on DVD or the music on the CD, but I'd love to see the "owner" tell me I can't watch or listen anymore. As a matter of fact, should they decide I can no longer play CoD, will a refund be forth coming? I highly doubt it. That money's has been/is being spent, I assume, on improving CoD and it's follow ons.

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Old 04-22-2012, 02:33 AM
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I really despise that argument. I don't own the movie I bought on DVD or the music on the CD, but I'd love to see the "owner" tell me I can't watch or listen anymore. As a matter of fact, should they decide I can no longer play CoD, will a refund be forth coming? I highly doubt it. That money's has been/is being spent, I assume, on improving CoD and it's follow ons.
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Old 04-22-2012, 04:09 AM
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And if you bother to read the EULA/TOS of said game, you'd see that you haven't bought the game, you've bought the right to play the game, until and unless the distributor/producer of said game revokes that right. Which, of course, they can do at any given time, without notifying you about it.

Steam goes down from time to time. That's what software and servers do *shrug* If you don't like it: Stop buying Steam-games. If you continue to buy Steam-games, you have absolutely NOTHING to complain about. At all, period.
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Old 04-22-2012, 06:13 AM
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You become a subscriber of Steam ("Subscriber") by installing the Steam client software and completing the Steam registration. Additionally, as a Subscriber you may obtain access to certain services, software and content ("Subscriptions") available to Subscribers. Conclusion of this contract between Valve and you takes place as soon as you access the Steam service after accepting this Agreement.


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Old 04-22-2012, 07:24 AM
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Steam will crumble adventually, just like AOL.. because really steam is just an AOL for games.. rubbish
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Old 04-22-2012, 07:44 AM
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Wow Valve has made sure to write down every possible loophole to ensure it can never be at fault.
So basically you want to play this game but it requires Steam to run. You don't want Steam, but you install it anyway. Then you decide that you hate Steam after using it - you want the activation code back, and they simply tell you all you can do is stop using the product and service. Because it's not "their" fault you are using 'their' service. WTF!

So if it is an online service that is "offered" to be accepted or not - you are either forced to use it or have a pointless disk on your shelf... WTF!

If I can't own my game in future; then I am just going to pirate a copy - because from what I have heard, the cracked version of CoD is Steam free - just water and ice. Therefore it means I am most likely to pirate a copy of BoM, especially since I have already payed $110 for some false advertising - imo I deserve a discount of 100% + Interest. Happy days ahead Luthier!
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Old 04-22-2012, 07:47 AM
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I should add; information should be free, or at least owned by those who payed for it. I'd expect that no game that has a disk should ever require an online activation - but rather one that is handled in store when you buy it - like any type of 'digital credit'.
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