Bf110 Kette Schwarm of both?

[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

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Flying in Kette.

3:15 Treffer im rechten Motor - trotzdem wird der Auftrag zu Ende geführt

Got some balls, this pilot, when one of my engines gets hit in Clod it means good bye battle area and hello god, hope you got some time for me.

[335th_GRAthos]

Originally Posted by Bewolf

3:15 Treffer im rechten Motor - trotzdem wird der Auftrag zu Ende geführt
Got some balls, this pilot, when one of my engines gets hit in Clod it means good bye battle area and hello god, hope you got some time for me.

I think this is the Camera Man and Propaganda Office who got some balls... sounds like typical propaganda film to me...


Regarding the new film, oh yes this looks a bit different.
I see two groups flying 4-fingers in the beginning 2:01 but afterwards all different formations (2:08 group, 2:16 V-form, 2:29...) I think they are for filming purposes.

At 3:09 is an amazing scene the ME-110 trying to shoot down the RAF plane which is attacking the JU-88 !!!!!!!


There is also another point that surprised me at 1:30 -> The main production model (ME-110C as of April '39) had a speed of 349Mph (560Kmh) at 23000feet (7000m)!!!!


~S~

[Pips]

Your right, there is definitely a mix of formations used. It may be to do with mission task. In the book "Messerschmitt BF 110: Bombsights Over England - Erprobungsgruppe 210 in the Battle of Britain" there are often mentions of Kette formations in attacks. Although to be fair there are also mentions of Rotte and Schwarm formations as well.

Great film!

[5./JG27.Farber]

Originally Posted by Pips

Your right, there is definitely a mix of formations used. It may be to do with mission task. In the book "Messerschmitt BF 110: Bombsights Over England - Erprobungsgruppe 210 in the Battle of Britain" there are often mentions of Kette formations in attacks. Although to be fair there are also mentions of Rotte and Schwarm formations as well.

Great film!

Yes, it seems they adopt Kette for Bombing and Schwarm for fighting...

[WTE_Galway]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

Yes, it seems they adopt Kette for Bombing and Schwarm for fighting...

To be honest flying Rotte when your whole flight is bomb laden and unable to manoeuvre seems a bit pointless. It just makes sense to fly Kette when bombing, safety in numbers.

[JG4_Bendwick]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

Yes, it seems they adopt Kette for Bombing and Schwarm for fighting...

2:08 is a Do17 bomber group in Kette formation...

[5./JG27.Farber]

Originally Posted by JG4_Bendwick

2:08 is a Do17 bomber group in Kette formation...

On futher inspection - I agree

and the 4:03 is Schwarm and Kette - Understrength?