No coop in this game?

[Chivas]

I don't fly Coops, that why my post was phrased with questions not answers. I posed some questions and Tree insinuated that it was not possible, but I expected that.

I'm still not sure why the ATAG group can start a server to fly around the map interacting with humans and AI while Coop'ers can't.

I agree that there are problems, but surely there is enough functionality (performance issues aside) to practice your squads until the developers tweak and fine tune the GUI to better suit your needs.

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by Chivas

I don't fly Coops, that why my post was phrased with questions not answers. I posed some questions and Tree insinuated that it was not possible, but I expected that.

Chivas, the only thing you and people like you (not flying coops) need to understand that a coop is a game mode of its own. You do not need to ask us why we need a mode where :
- 16 players start exactly at the same time,
- dead/downed players cannot return to the mission until it is over,
- there are one or two objectives which deliberately lure all (half) of those players into one (two) spot on the map.

It proved to be a great concept that gained much popularity over the years and it evolved into giving IL2 another meaning altoghether as a video game.

It is a bit different from DM servers in theory, in practice it makes IL2 a whole different game. Coop`ers would like to have it in CloD or a close substitute of it. Main ponts of a coop mission have already been added in this topic earlier by some of the more constructive users.

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by carguy_

Chivas, the only thing you and people like you (not flying coops) need to understand that a coop is a game mode of its own. You do not need to ask us why we need a mode where :
- 16 players start exactly at the same time,
- dead/downed players cannot return to the mission until it is over,
- there are one or two objectives which deliberately lure all (half) of those players into one (two) spot on the map.

It proved to be a great concept that gained much popularity over the years and it evolved into giving IL2 another meaning altoghether as a video game.

It is a bit different from DM servers in theory, in practice it makes IL2 a whole different game. Coop`ers would like to have it in CloD or a close substitute of it. Main ponts of a coop mission have already been added in this topic earlier by some of the more constructive users.

I'm not saying there aren't problems with COOP style play, but I still don't understand why squads can't "start exactly at the same time".
"inform there squad m8's they can't rejoin until the mission is finished"
"have two or more objectives on the map"

[furbs]

Chivas, Please try a run a COOP yourself right now. then come back.

[von Pilsner]

How this thread appears to me:

THIS THREAD: WE would like coop to work different / better...

DANO / CHIVAS: They work fine.

THIS THREAD: Really? show us, make a coop and show us how to play in coop mode...

DANO: Playing on dogfight server is COOP!
CHIVAS: I don't really play COOP...

Why are you guys who don't seem to play COOP so against more options for COOPs???? Or is it cause it's furbs and Tree and you thought you were somehow defending the game? (they do want a better game, they really aren't just here to bash on CloD).

[furbs]

Originally Posted by von Pilsner

How this thread appears to me:

THIS THREAD: WE would like coop to work different / better...

DANO / CHIVAS: They work fine.

THIS THREAD: Really? show us, make a coop and show us how to play in coop mode...

DANO: Playing on dogfight server is COOP!
CHIVAS: I don't really play COOP...

Why are you guys who don't seem to play COOP so against more options for COOPs???? Or is it cause it's furbs and Tree and you thought you were somehow defending the game? (they do want a better game, they really aren't just here to bash on CloD).

Its more like this...


By furbs9999 at 2012-04-16

Chivas, ive played hundreds of COOP's cant you just believe me?

Originally Posted by von Pilsner

How this thread appears to me:

THIS THREAD: WE would like coop to work different / better...

DANO / CHIVAS: They work fine.

THIS THREAD: Really? show us, make a coop and show us how to play in coop mode...

DANO: Playing on dogfight server is COOP!
CHIVAS: I don't really play COOP...

Why are you guys who don't seem to play COOP so against more options for COOPs???? Or is it cause it's furbs and Tree and you thought you were somehow defending the game? (they do want a better game, they really aren't just here to bash on CloD).

It seems they are defending the game mate, not one of them will even take up the challenge of trying to host or make a COOP mission, which in truth says it all.

...seconded, thirded, fourthed, and fifthed....

Ben

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by von Pilsner

How this thread appears to me:

THIS THREAD: WE would like coop to work different / better...

DANO / CHIVAS: They work fine.

THIS THREAD: Really? show us, make a coop and show us how to play in coop mode...

DANO: Playing on dogfight server is COOP!
CHIVAS: I don't really play COOP...

Why are you guys who don't seem to play COOP so against more options for COOPs???? Or is it cause it's furbs and Tree and you thought you were somehow defending the game? (they do want a better game, they really aren't just here to bash on CloD).

I never said that Coops work fine, and never said that I don't want the option to make Coop missions easier. Squad members here are saying they aren't flying because they can't practise, and I was asking why they can't practice a number of scenarios now, until the GUI is tweaked/changed/fixed/added for easy COOP use.

I asked a number of questions, but all I get back is a blanket No they can't. I don't know if they can't start a server, or can't load the mission, or can't start the mission, or can't select an aircraft.

All I know is that I just started COD, selected Multiplayer, selected Server, selected a Mission, selected an Aircraft, and Started flying.

I know it should be possible to build a number of missions that would satisfy Squad practice, from plane vs plane to ground attack missions. I also know I could setup a number of scenarios in the same mission.

Is it that other squad members are having problems joining the server?
I know you can start the mission so everyone starts at the same time, even airstarts.
I know squads have enough discipline to not rejoin after they've been shot down.
I know you can fly against AI.

I just not sure what it is they can't do. I know their are problems, but I'm just trying to understand what they all are.

[SlipBall]