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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-01-2012, 02:00 AM
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Anyone know if or why the windscreen is divided up?
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Old 04-01-2012, 04:07 AM
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Anyone know if or why the windscreen is divided up?

I'm assuming you mean the sections in the new Il2 model's windscreen?

I'm suspecting that is an early type of Russian armored glass.

Fire up original IL2 and look through the front pane of the cockpit glass, you will see a diamond shape line. Same thing, just not modeled in the fidelity of the CloD engine.
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Old 04-01-2012, 04:21 AM
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I'm assuming you mean the sections in the new Il2 model's windscreen?

I'm suspecting that is an early type of Russian armored glass.

Fire up original IL2 and look through the front pane of the cockpit glass, you will see a diamond shape line. Same thing, just not modeled in the fidelity of the CloD engine.
THAT'S what that is? IDK why, but I assumed it was some strange gunsight or markers. I didn't fly the Sturmo often so I never gave it thought. Learn something new every day. Ha!
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Old 04-01-2012, 09:38 AM
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Not releasing a patch with broken particle system absolutely makes sense, even if the patch is already months overdue.

I really like the screenshots of BoM although they would certainly look even better with AA working I can already see myself flying over the Eastern front again. (last time was 2002-2003, and back then IL2 almost cost me my diploma thesis).

In the last years I have played mostly turn based strategy and tactical games (like JA2). But since that genre is dead as a doornail I feel my interest in flight sims is rising again to the old levels. The possibility of a finally working Battle of Britain sim and new Eastern front sim is an absolute dream.

Currently, I still don't own COD, last week I almost succumbed, but without the patch that would be anticlimatic at best. Once the patch is out, I will reconsider. Ah, and Steam has to go too, but I could resign myself to that. Perhaps, probably ..


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Old 04-01-2012, 11:06 AM
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As much as I would like CloD to succeed, it won't be any time soon. I have access to the WoP beta and there are realism setting that make it close to IL-2 1946. Yes, the idea is to make an MMO accessible to anyone so it's more arcade, but the developer are taking serious simmers' preferences into account. It may look how it looks, but at least it runs smooth and you don't need to sell your soul to get a PC that can run it at 30 fps all the time (hell, I get 60 constant)

Whatever anyone thinks, the sad truth is Gaijin has a current-gen graphics engine that takes advantage of all the expensive hardware we have and CloD is still a bug-ridden stutter fest. From a consumer point of view, all the programming issues are none of my concern. With the problem this sim has, it's not worth the money.
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As much as I would like CloD to succeed, it won't be any time soon. I have access to the WoP beta and there are realism setting that make it close to IL-2 1946. Yes, the idea is to make an MMO accessible to anyone so it's more arcade, but the developer are taking serious simmers' preferences into account. It may look how it looks, but at least it runs smooth and you don't need to sell your soul to get a PC that can run it at 30 fps all the time (hell, I get 60 constant)

Whatever anyone thinks, the sad truth is Gaijin has a current-gen graphics engine that takes advantage of all the expensive hardware we have and CloD is still a bug-ridden stutter fest. From a consumer point of view, all the programming issues are none of my concern. With the problem this sim has, it's not worth the money.

Not very promising then for some of us...I keep looking at this weeks shots of Il-2, very good to see them
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As much as I would like CloD to succeed, it won't be any time soon. I have access to the WoP beta and there are realism setting that make it close to IL-2 1946. Yes, the idea is to make an MMO accessible to anyone so it's more arcade, but the developer are taking serious simmers' preferences into account. It may look how it looks, but at least it runs smooth and you don't need to sell your soul to get a PC that can run it at 30 fps all the time (hell, I get 60 constant)

Whatever anyone thinks, the sad truth is Gaijin has a current-gen graphics engine that takes advantage of all the expensive hardware we have and CloD is still a bug-ridden stutter fest. From a consumer point of view, all the programming issues are none of my concern. With the problem this sim has, it's not worth the money.
So you are telling us that a new 2012 game is only able to get up to the level of a game released in 2001 when it comes to FMs? (not to talk about realism in general)
I hope you are aware that those people that actually did switch to CoD from IL2 1946, despite the bugs and issues, did so because the FM in IL2 feels like child play compared to CoD.

Do not get me wrong, I will give WoP a real chance and am actually looking forward to it, but it is a very focused game with no choice in regards to gameplay. Too many limitations in the game mechanics to come even close to the flexebility CoD offers. Apples and Oranges. From a consumer point of view, there is no alternative to CoD.

If you fail to see the differences between those softwares, I fear you are in the wrong community, the focus here is not on airquake.
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As much as I would like CloD to succeed, it won't be any time soon. I have access to the WoP beta and there are realism setting that make it close to IL-2 1946. Yes, the idea is to make an MMO accessible to anyone so it's more arcade, but the developer are taking serious simmers' preferences into account. It may look how it looks, but at least it runs smooth and you don't need to sell your soul to get a PC that can run it at 30 fps all the time (hell, I get 60 constant)

Whatever anyone thinks, the sad truth is Gaijin has a current-gen graphics engine that takes advantage of all the expensive hardware we have and CloD is still a bug-ridden stutter fest. From a consumer point of view, all the programming issues are none of my concern. With the problem this sim has, it's not worth the money.
WOP Beta? What beta are you talking about? I don't read anything anywhere about a beta for WOP? Are you talking about WOP2? Because all I have read about that is that it will be announced next week that it is being shelved.

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As much as I would like CloD to succeed, it won't be any time soon. I have access to the WoP beta and there are realism setting that make it close to IL-2 1946. Yes, the idea is to make an MMO accessible to anyone so it's more arcade, but the developer are taking serious simmers' preferences into account. It may look how it looks, but at least it runs smooth and you don't need to sell your soul to get a PC that can run it at 30 fps all the time (hell, I get 60 constant)

Whatever anyone thinks, the sad truth is Gaijin has a current-gen graphics engine that takes advantage of all the expensive hardware we have and CloD is still a bug-ridden stutter fest. From a consumer point of view, all the programming issues are none of my concern. With the problem this sim has, it's not worth the money.
I have a different opinion about it. Fortunately it will be free and everyone will be able to try it.

Good news is it will bring many new players to flight sims as it is more accessible, not as demanding as Il-2:CloD for mainstream gamers.
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