An Alternate Strategy?

[robtek]

I'd rather have the devs doing a job they know, instead of wasting time in forums.

Once the sim is working at a adequate level there may be resources left for that.

And alienating customers who have already paid and have run out of patience? Well, the only solution is a working patch, not sweet talking.

Oh, and Apple and Co have to have good customer relations to sell their not really cheap stuff.

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by robtek

I'd rather have the devs doing a job they know, instead of wasting time in forums.

Once the sim is working at a adequate level there may be resources left for that.

And alienating customers who have already paid and have run out of patience? Well, the only solution is a working patch, not sweet talking.

Oh, and Apple and Co have to have good customer relations to sell their not really cheap stuff.

Have you ever purchased an app? They start from .79 €, most of them cost 2-3 euros. Not really expensive stuff. And what you call sweet talking ... OMG I stop here.

[ATAG_Bliss]

An app's target audience could be in the millions though. And some of those teams all share the same profits equally. It makes sense to have a lead you by the hand type atmosphere. I don't think comparing it to a flight sim, the most complex type of game out there with the smallest target audience, is really fitting.

I don't really see Luthier talking much less than he ever did. Oleg always did it. Should he have stepped up IMO??, sure, but it's not like Luthier has stopped communicating. He never really did anyway. B6 is at least trying though. It's a shame that we don't get anything new anymore thanks to the negativity. I'd love to see more of the sequel every week.

And it's obvious that there isn't gonna be a game engine for the sequel to run on until they fix the 1st one, BOB.

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Bliss

An app's target audience could be in the millions though. And some of those teams all share the same profits equally. It makes sense to have a lead you by the hand type atmosphere. I don't think comparing it to a flight sim, the most complex type of game out there with the smallest target audience, is really fitting.

I don't really see Luthier talking much less than he ever did. Oleg always did it. Should he have stepped up IMO??, sure, but it's not like Luthier has stopped communicating. He never really did anyway. B6 is at least trying though. It's a shame that we don't get anything new anymore thanks to the negativity. I'd love to see more of the sequel every week.

And it's obvious that there isn't gonna be a game engine for the sequel to run on until they fix the 1st one, BOB.

The first Il2 was sold in 6 or 7 million copies, IIRC.

[ATAG_Bliss]

Originally Posted by Insuber

The first Il2 was sold in 6 or 7 million copies, IIRC.

Yeah I agree, but it's a combination of 10+ years of updates, patches, expansions, etc.

Are you saying that cliffs of dover sold the same amount or better yet FB sold the same amount in the 1st 3 months that angry birds did when it was released?

Cmon now Insuber - not exactly apples/apples type comparison here.

[addman]

Originally Posted by Insuber

The first Il2 was sold in 6 or 7 million copies, IIRC.

Only the original IL-2 from 2001?! 6-7 million?! That can't be, many triple A console games don't sell half of that but are still considered successes. If they really sold that many copies no wonder they took their time developing CloD.

If the whole of the il-2 series have sold more than a million copies through the years it's enough to consider the game a success.

[ATAG_Bliss]

Heck, just look at some recent youtube videos of 46. There's still people asking everyday, "what game is this? Where can I buy it?" I bet the amount of copies still being sold today would probably surprise you..

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by addman

Only the original IL-2 from 2001?! 6-7 million?! That can't be, many triple A console games don't sell half of that but are still considered successes. If they really sold that many copies no wonder they took their time developing CloD.

If the whole of the il-2 series have sold more than a million copies through the years it's enough to consider the game a success.

Not the first only, all the Il2 editions and sequels until 2009. FB, AEP, PF, 1946. The figure was given by an UBI Forum mod some years ago.

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by Insuber

Not the first only, all the Il2 editions and sequels until 2009. FB, AEP, PF, 1946. The figure was given by an UBI Forum mod some years ago.

Get your facts straight already.

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by Insuber

The first Il2 was sold in 6 or 7 million copies, IIRC.

Uhuh, maybe from 2001 to 2010. Then again, you must have some good info that you would provide to us to prove it. Or maybe just link something to make us think it`s even highly likely.