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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 03-21-2012, 08:08 PM
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Where did Black6 say the will be other fixes coming?
As far as i know Black6 said the patch is "just" the graphics rewrite only, he said nothing about other fixes.
Another (reasonable?) assumption:

As robtek said, the first patch deals with graphics.........then what?

We know they've been working on other things. They've told us.

So what do they do? Release them after the graphics are done or wait until BOM? From reading Luthier's updates the plan is to fix FMs, AI and a lot of other things for COD before the sequel is released. Maybe(?) some are ready for release now. I don't know.
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Im just saying we dont "know" other fixes are coming in other patches.
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Old 03-21-2012, 08:20 PM
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From reading Luthier's comments they are...or are planned to be. Read back over the statements about ongoing work and continuing to support COD.
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From reading Luthier's comments they are...or are planned to be. Read back over the statements about ongoing work and continuing to support COD.
Lets not count our chickens. i wouldn't count on anything at the moment until its downloaded and working on your PC.
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Old 03-21-2012, 09:25 PM
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I'll sketch out what I think the situation might be and why I made the suggestion in the first post.

I think that the devs may have felt that the graphics patch is 'almost there' for maybe the last 2+ months. There was talk about it before Christmas. There was a statement about a problem with decals more recently that gave the impression that once that was fixed then it would be ready.

I think it is possible that they have spent nearly every week of the last 2 months thinking that completion was just around the corner. But new unforeseen problems kept being found. It ends up in a long delay, they get it in the neck again, the waiting public are unhappy, and all the way along at each step the devs are convinced that they almost have it cracked and just a few more days will sort it.

In a situation like that you can get a kind of fixation on the way that you want things to happen and lose sight of other alternatives.

Maybe it is time now to conclude that there is a danger that it may take another x months to sort out the graphics, and if so that it would be a good idea to change tack and release some other things that are complete earlier they were originally scheduled?

This is all speculation and I don't want to come across as appearing to say that I know better than the devs what their strategy should be. There are a couple of hundred reasons why it might not be possible to do it like this.
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I agree Kendo, we were told when we saw the tanks and AA guns that it would only be the work of a couple of guys and not to worry the rest of the team would be working very hard on the rest of features for CLOD.

Well the rest of the team have had 5 months so you would assume they would have made some good progress.


It would be great to see the fruits of their labour.
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From wading through numerous posts I got the impression that BOM is to Clod as PF was to Forgotten Battles.It can be installed and run as a separate entity or merged with Clod.
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Why do people keep referring to BOM as a 'sequel'? Doesn't it stand for Battle of Moscow? Wouldn't that just be a new map and maybe two more linear campaigns?
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Why do people keep referring to BOM as a 'sequel'? Doesn't it stand for Battle of Moscow? Wouldn't that just be a new map and maybe two more linear campaigns?
It's still rather unclear what relationship BOM will have to CLOD.

We say "sequel" with the understanding that the relationship could be like that between the original IL2 and IL2: Forgotten Battles, but it could also be like the relationship between IL2FB and Pacific Fighters, or PF and 1946.
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Old 03-21-2012, 09:04 PM
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Why do people keep referring to BOM as a 'sequel'? Doesn't it stand for Battle of Moscow? Wouldn't that just be a new map and maybe two more linear campaigns?

Those were the words of the developer's mouthpeice, B6. People assuming this is an expansion is just a guess, as the actual term used was sequel.
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