The Crystal Ball 2

[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by Fjordmonkey

Nobody held a gun to your head and forced you to buy it.

Wow, do you have reading comprehension issues or something? Go back over my post again and re-think your reply.

A lot of us were led to believe that it was 1C Publishing forcing Maddox Games to get the thing out the door in its current state. The understanding was that MG would work hard to fix our product and remain in our good graces. We bought the game because Oleg & Co. had earned a lot of good will from the community, supporting their game for years after release and having constructive dialogue with the community.

Contrast that to the current situation. We bought their broken game. We're closing in on a year after release, the game's still broken in multiple significant ways, and they're already talking about a sequel. This is the kind of crap that EA/DICE get lambasted for in the media with the Call of Duty series. Before BlackSix was appointed, we had to get our news secondhand from the russian forums, as if the non-Russian audience is the red-headed stepchild of flight simmers. Conversations between Developer and Community could best be described as "frosty", and at worst as "hostile".

You tell me, who's in the wrong here?

[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by Ctrl E

Guys. Stop apologising. You paid for a promised product and didn't get it.

Now the developers are being incredibly rude to their remaining dwindling customer base.

+1

This needs to be said more.

[ElAurens]

Originally Posted by MajorBoris

thats bull, go buy a p4 1.8 cpu with 512 sys mem and a 4600 ti gpu(top of the line 8 months after release) and tell me if you get more then 30 fps on high settings with il2 sturmovik out of the box.

But at the time that was considered playable by the majority of the community. I know no one that even thought about playing it with the graphics totally maxed out. IL2 was playable because you could get online with all your mates and fly it into the wee hours of the morning without a worry about CTDs,and have a grand time doing it. And we did, night after night, for years. And I did it with a Ti 4400.

That's playability. Don't confuse it with eye candy ability.

And that is what we currently lack.

[Buchon]

Sorry for the deception but we are not in the 90´s anymore.

[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

But at the time that was considered playable by the majority of the community. I know no one that even thought about playing it with the graphics totally maxed out. IL2 was playable because you could get online with all your mates and fly it into the wee hours of the morning without a worry about CTDs,and have a grand time doing it. And we did, night after night, for years. And I did it with a Ti 4400.

That's playability. Don't confuse it with eye candy ability.

And that is what we currently lack.

Respectfully, El, we lack playability too. I certainly can't play online with my mates into the wee hours without worrying about CTDs. There's a memory leak in the game currently. I can't fly more than about 45 minutes without the game crashing.

[ElAurens]

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

Respectfully, El, we lack playability too. I certainly can't play online with my mates into the wee hours without worrying about CTDs. There's a memory leak in the game currently. I can't fly more than about 45 minutes without the game crashing.

Doggles, I think you drew the wrong conclusion from my post.

We do lack playability in CloD is my point, as compared to IL2 that was "playable" out of the box.

Sorry if it's confusing.

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by MajorBoris

thats bull, go buy a p4 1.8 cpu with 512 sys mem and a 4600 ti gpu(top of the line 8 months after release) and tell me if you get more then 30 fps on high settings with il2 sturmovik out of the box.

I sure as hell remember IL2 being a resource hog in 2002. New mid-range hardware was able to run it low-to-medium settings at most, and that meant turning off the buildings. Some poeple just don`t remember where they come from.

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by Chivas

Preorders are no longer a factor, they've already sold enough of the first product. There is no doubt there are alot of unhappy people and they will wait to see how the next product turns out before buying. What we say or the developers say in the mean time will have very little effect on sales. You don't need to like the manufacturer to buy their product if the product is good, and there is no competition.

BoM is day 1 buy for me. I just want to fly the new Friedrich.

[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

Doggles, I think you drew the wrong conclusion from my post.

We do lack playability in CloD is my point, as compared to IL2 that was "playable" out of the box.

Sorry if it's confusing.

Maybe I read it too fast, apologies.

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by kendo65

Maybe it's a Russian thing? I don't know. Information about the patch has been guarded as if it was highly important state secrets. It's not the delay in releasing the patch that is annoying people, it's the absence of ANY meaningful information. People can put up with being stone-walled for so long, but eventually they start to get annoyed. That unfortunately is what has happened here.

What? People have been moaning regardless! You go back and read any of the update threads! And I`m annoyed too. Pretty sure of that. Do I attack BlackSix for lack of recent info?Do I post the same drivel about beating cheated?No, I wait, sometimes I`ll ask some questions. But I`m calm enough to hold back the childish GIVE ME NOW NOW NOW NOW OR ILL START SCREAMING attitude!