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Old 02-16-2012, 08:54 PM
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Because you would enable you to turn off your own engine sound - which would lead to the sonar problem-> You'd be flying a glider and hear any enemy planes approaching you from behind.
If you're flying off-line, who cares if you take advantage of the "sonar" bug?

If you're flying on-line, the server administrator should be able to control sound levels, allowing or disallowing "sonar" as he wishes.

I don't see the "sonar bug" as being in any way incompatible with user-customizable sounds.

While I have tremendous respect for TD, I think that they're being unreasonably cautious about allowing user-developed sound packs.

User-created sound packs are perfectly legitimate and legally defensible. Already, IL2 allows you to add in custom music, which is much more of a source of copyright violations and legal action than sound effects.

Should TD be silly enough to produce their own sound pack, consider:

Copyright on sound effects is much looser than copyright on other recorded works. While it's a copyright violation to use sound effects from a copyrighted work (e.g., a movie or piece of music), copyright courts have been very reluctant to allow copyrights on sounds produced by particular types of machinery. For example, a few years ago, Harley-Davidson got smacked down in U.S. court when it tried to copyright the distinctive sound of its motorcycle engines.

The sounds produced by by Axis equipment WILL be in the public domain, as spoils of war. This means that all the sounds of German, Italian, Japanese, Romanian and Hungarian WW2 equipment will be copyright free.

The sounds of any equipment produced by state-run industries, such as Soviet-produced equipment, will be in the public domain. This means that any Soviet equipment sounds will be copyright free, as will the sounds of equipment produced by other governments' state factories (e.g., the sound of the U.S. atomic bomb or the M1 Garand rifle).

Sounds recorded by radio or movie broadcasts which are now in the public domain are copyright free. This means that you can use any sound from old newsreels and training films without infringing on copyright. This goes double for Axis- or state-produced media.

Sound recorded by private individuals and released into the public domain are copyright free. All you need to do is send a few recorder-equipped IL2 fan-boys to some air shows and a some WW2 reenactment events and you have all the airplane engine and machine gun sounds you want.

So, there you are.
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Old 02-17-2012, 05:17 AM
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While I have tremendous respect for TD, I think that they're being unreasonably cautious about allowing user-developed sound packs.
You, Sir, are unreasonably trusting when it comes to the potential of greed within the human race.

We're playing it by the old maxime "Better safe than sorry" and no amount of bemoaning that will change it. Some of us have signed a contract with 1C which means in the worst case 1C could roast them over a fire if they wanted. But hey, anything's possible as long as you're not responsible, isn't it?
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Old 02-17-2012, 05:38 AM
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You, Sir, are unreasonably trusting when it comes to the potential of greed within the human race.
I've all too wary of copyright trolls, and I understand TD's reluctance to do anything which will get them in trouble with 1C.

But, I still don't understand why 1c allows users to add their own music to the game - and potentially risk the wrath of the RIAA - while they won't allow users to add their own sound effects.
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Old 02-17-2012, 06:33 AM
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I've all too wary of copyright trolls, and I understand TD's reluctance to do anything which will get them in trouble with 1C.

But, I still don't understand why 1c allows users to add their own music to the game - and potentially risk the wrath of the RIAA - while they won't allow users to add their own sound effects.
I don't know about the technical questions pertaining to this issue so I can't say whether that's even possible or not. My reply was to the repeating question why DT won't include "existing soundpacks".
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Old 02-20-2012, 10:14 AM
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Is that working radar for nightfighters be available for 4.12 or is that project shelved?
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Old 02-20-2012, 01:40 PM
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Please if it possible remove the micro stuttering and the "Memory could not be read "error .....i think "Memory could not be read" error is related to micro stuttering!....Thank you!.Team Daidalos good job!

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Old 02-20-2012, 09:56 PM
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I asked this before without getting an answer from TD.

Can you implement a new bomber version of the Ju88 and He111 respectively?

The He111H-11 or H-16 could be easily created out of the H-6/H-12 models we have in game and would therefor only require little 3D work, mostly swapping of existing gun models, and altered FM to represent more powerful engines.

Same applies for the Ju88-A-4 fieldmods and late variants, which were upgunned and are as easy to create.
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Old 02-21-2012, 01:25 AM
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I asked this before without getting an answer from TD.

Can you implement a new bomber version of the Ju88 and He111 respectively?

The He111H-11 or H-16 could be easily created out of the H-6/H-12 models we have in game and would therefor only require little 3D work, mostly swapping of existing gun models, and altered FM to represent more powerful engines.

Same applies for the Ju88-A-4 fieldmods and late variants, which were upgunned and are as easy to create.
I think if someone is willing to do the modeling work to standards then the new types would be accepted. I'd love to see a Ju88C-6 for some east front train busting and strafing.
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Old 02-17-2012, 06:00 AM
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You, Sir, are unreasonably trusting when it comes to the potential of greed within the human race.
Speaking of which: some years ago, when we were making those add-ons for IL-2 with Ilya, one guy from Poland was threatening 1C with a lawsuit, demanding royalties... Because on one plane from the add-on we had a camouflage pattern, which, apparently was also published in his book. This wasn't some unique paint job, just a standard camo scheme, used on this plane, which was also published in a number of other books and in original government-issued painting instructions for the aircraft type.

Obviously, he had no legal basis under such claim and he was politely asked to f off. But hey, who needs all that crap? So, unless DT would have a permission from every and all authors of a content, this content will not be included.
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Old 02-17-2012, 11:15 AM
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If you're flying on-line, the server administrator should be able to control sound levels, allowing or disallowing "sonar" as he wishes.
You should have mentioned that.
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