SPIT MK I/II and over boost

[Blakduk]

My issue is not really about the game in this discussion- if the game developers want to even up the competition between red and blue by compromising elements that's their call. I'll still play it.
Want i dont want to see happen is people altering historical facts.

As Captain Rum said in Blackadder when challenged about not having a crew a aboard his ship:
Blackadder- 'I was under the impression that it was common maritime practice for a ship to have a crew'
Rum:- 'Opinion is divided on the subject'.
Edmund: 'Oh, really?'
Rum: 'Yes. All the other captains say it is; I say it isn't'

[fruitbat]

Originally Posted by Blakduk

Want i dont want to see happen is people altering historical facts.

People have been doing that since history began.

I like you see all the evidence thats been presented to show only one thing, but there are some here that won't change there mind for whatever reason.

However, since even the most vocal naysayers admit that there was hurris and Spit mk1s using 100 octane fuel in some reasonable numbers, they need to be in the game period.

As long as the devs get that, the rest is just immaterial to me, people believe strange things, after all some people still believe the earth is flat....

[SEE]

There is a lot of interesting data and facts regards the octane rating and I have enjoyed reading through them, But, the simple truth is that a Rotol Spit Mk1a, as modelled, is slower than a Rotol Hurricane and the 6Ilbs of Boost does sweet FA to boot! - That's about as 'Black and White' as it gets - there is no 'grey' area in that simple observation!

Even if not completely perfect, relative performance of all the fighters is the essential fix for me (for the time being anyway....except having 6Ibs of boost working is better than no Boost)!

[Bounder!]

Originally Posted by SEE

There is a lot of interesting data and facts regards the octane rating and I have enjoyed reading through them, But, the simple truth is that a Rotol Spit Mk1a, as modelled, is slower than a Rotol Hurricane and the 6Ilbs of Boost does sweet FA to boot! - That's about as 'Black and White' as it gets - there is no 'grey' area in that simple observation!

Even if not completely perfect, relative performance of all the fighters is the essential fix for me (for the time being anyway....except having 6Ibs of boost working is better than no Boost)!

+1 signed. I believe, along with a more smooth running game (if possible) updates and fixes to the planes on both sides of BoB, where required, are a necessity.

[TomcatViP]

If we are still debating (I mean hearing each other arguments) I wld say that Spit FM need to be fixed... Then the matter of 100 or no 100 won't be such a question. [/SradfordUpAvon_Mode=OFF]

[robtek]

As MG already said, that FM's and DM's would be fixed/revised with the next patch, i'd like to say, any discussion of FM/DM before that is a pure waste of time

[klem]

Originally Posted by TomcatViP

If we are still debating (I mean hearing each other arguments) I wld say that Spit FM need to be fixed... Then the matter of 100 or no 100 won't be such a question. [/SradfordUpAvon_Mode=OFF]

Possibly. I haven't looked into it but perhaps the 'undermodelling' of the Spitfires is because they are modelled with 87 Octane?

[Kurfürst]

Hmm, Spitfires being undermodelled. Interesting.

Klem, may I ask you to try something.

Pick a Spitfire II.
Bank it 90 degrees.
Pull back the stick fully forward.

Come back here and share your observations about it.

[Al Schlageter]

Originally Posted by Kurfürst

Hmm, Spitfires being undermodelled. Interesting.

Klem, may I ask you to try something.

Pick a Spitfire II.
Bank it 90 degrees.
Pull back the stick fully forward.

Come back here and share your observations about it.

How does one pull back the stick fully forward?

[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by klem

Possibly. I haven't looked into it but perhaps the 'undermodelling' of the Spitfires is because they are modelled with 87 Octane?

"Spitfires" as a whole are not undermodeled. I'll agree that the Spitfire Mk.1 is underperforming, but not because of "87 octane".

This is what I was trying to get at earlier in this thread. People misunderstand what the octane number actually measures.