Community help needed with AI and Radio Comms

[desastersoft]

Gentlemen!

The most things i read about the AI behavior are consequences of incorrect mission building. If you do the things correct in FMB, the AI is a very good and realistc one. If you behave wrong in FMB, than you have some Problem. This belongs also to the Quick Missions, from what, imho, most must be "rewritten". By spending now more than 1.000 Hours in the great FMB of CloD and over 770 Hours in Combat tests for the builded Missions, i realy stay on that point of view.

But i think this will not bother the AI discussion .

Cheers
Thomas

[Frequent_Flyer]

Originally Posted by desastersoft

Gentlemen!

The most things i read about the AI behavior are consequences of incorrect mission building. If you do the things correct in FMB, the AI is a very good and realistc one. If you behave wrong in FMB, than you have some Problem. This belongs also to the Quick Missions, from what, imho, most must be "rewritten". By spending now more than 1.000 Hours in the great FMB of CloD and over 770 Hours in Combat tests for the builded Missions, i realy stay on that point of view.

But i think this will not bother the AI discussion .

Cheers
Thomas

Were you drinking heavily and/or under the influence of pyschtropic drugs during or preceeding the creation/testing of FMB ?

[csThor]

Well, my personal "peeve" with the AI is the lack of what really separated experienced pilots from utterly green rookies - situational awareness.

A totally green pilot put into a combat aircraft will barely be able to do more than cling to his leader (and losing sight of him often enough, though). Such a pilot's attention is completely occupied by keeping the aircraft in the air and not losing sight of his formation. You can read that often enough in veteran's memories - they almost never saw the enemy aircraft during their first air combat.
Experience is gained through flying missions (and coming back in one piece ) and the first thing that improves is the situational awareness. Suddenly the pilot does have more and more routine in flying the aircraft so that he can keep most of his attention outside, scanning the skies for contacts or other unusual things. There are varying grades of situational awareness, there are pilots with little and pilots with a great load of it and often training or experience have nothing to do with gaining it, but only after a certain amount is gained other aspects of flying other skills improve (such as aerobatics, combat tactics or even shooting skills).

This brings us to what is my main "booo!" with the AI - it does know (always!) when an enemy aircraft is on its tail. There is no way to surprise the AI, once you get into shooting position it will start "waggling" from left to right so badly, that I get headaches after watching it for a while. There is no tactics involved - no sharp break turn, no steep dive, just that insane "wag the wing" stuff.

My 0,02 € ...

[planespotter]

Originally Posted by desastersoft

Gentlemen!

The most things i read about the AI behavior are consequences of incorrect mission building. If you do the things correct in FMB, the AI is a very good and realistc one. If you behave wrong in FMB, than you have some Problem. This belongs also to the Quick Missions, from what, imho, most must be "rewritten". By spending now more than 1.000 Hours in the great FMB of CloD and over 770 Hours in Combat tests for the builded Missions, i realy stay on that point of view.

But i think this will not bother the AI discussion .

Cheers
Thomas

Thomas Desastersoft....Interesting, yes and no. I have also spent many many hours in fmb and successful built some great fights. But how to explain what i describe above? Opposing aircraft sailing past each other without engaging? All with fuel, ammo, fighters set to free hunt (but same if set to attack bomber or attack fighter)...there is no logical situation whatsoever in which fighters set to free hunt should totally ignore bombers...it is my biggest AI groan, along with AI blowing off all their ammo in long pointless hosepipe bursts. And the ace AI is just silly the manoeuvres it uses the barrel rolls...i never set AI to ace in fmb. And ps instead of saying this what you write, if you have learned so much of the fmb, why do you not share it with us, some of your tips for maximising the ai would be very helpful!

[salmo]

Problem: Ai have repetable, predictable behaviours.

Suggestion: develop Heuristic rather than scripted (repetative) Ai code.

Rationale: Ai often perform predictable manouvers. Heuristic logic would produce more human-like Ai performance.